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M00seUK
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Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Original Message Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am |
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In the press today:- http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.doProduct details:- - Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
- 200 watt motor
- 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
- £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99
I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed? I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #213 Aug 12, 2009 6:16 am |
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Says you. Manufacturers and consumers care.
Venson’s out.
Anyone else have the answer to my straightforward and fair question (quoted above)?... Anyone?
DIB
DIB:
Like I said of all your questions, they are meaningless. The answers are moot to consumers' purchasing decisions for handhelds. You ask "soup" questions. 5-6 minutes for operation times at $150-$200 for any garage, house and/or car clean up applications is blindly unrealistic. Hence, dyson and James are pushing the DC30/31 for $300 with a lo speed of 10 minutes and hi speed of 5 minutes. Neither of which is truly any better than the DC16 for serious clean ups around the house, car and garage. More importantly, from a new products perspective they are not even comparable let alone better than the Dirt Devil corded ultra and B&D pivot. The latter two brands/models at a fraction of dyson's prices. The only bellying up here is being done by you and the weak products you profess/proclaim on behalf of your beloved James w/o buying/using. BTW how's that cyclonic dyson nose cleaner coming along? I'm sure it will keep you busy, that is if you take your nose out long enough. Carmine D.
This message was modified Aug 12, 2009 by CarmineD
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #215 Aug 12, 2009 8:37 am |
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DIB, thought you might like to read and apply today's Gospel reading [actually an excerpt] to your situation here. If you need assistance with the symbolism and meaning, and you may, feel free. I'll provide you the needed clarification. At this point I think every poster here on this thread, including HS, has weighed in against you/your erroneous thoughts and beliefs. Making you, like the Gentiles and tax collectors, an outsider. A non-believer. Carmine D. Mt 18:15-20
Jesus said to his disciples: “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell the Church. If he refuses to listen even to the Church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector.
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #216 Aug 12, 2009 10:24 am |
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Dyson could learn something from Toyota about battery powered devices. You've got to have a back up plan for when the batteries run out. There's nothing wrong with a cord for handheld devices. In fact, I'd prefer to see him offer a corded model for far less money. The weight would drop due to no battery. It doesn't matter if it has the highest suction of any cordless handheld or best filtration because after 5 minutes it can't clean as well as a broom and dustpan. A corded model would have the capacity for even greater suction due to the higher voltage available, and not have the serious limitations of a cordless model. If you think of the Dyson DC31 as a handheld cleaner, it has serious problems. But if you consider it a piece of art or status symbol for display in a Dyson enthusiast's home, it is priceless. Dyson might have more luck branching out into cordless drills, since they are more likely to be used far away from an electrical outlet.
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #218 Aug 12, 2009 12:05 pm |
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Mt 18:15-20
Jesus said to his disciples: “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell the Church. If he refuses to listen even to the Church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector.
DIB:
The Pastor who read today's Gospel and gave the Homily was much less generous and kind than me. First the Pastor said where is the God of Love and Mercy? And answered his own question: Well, He's still and always here but you can't be "stupid" about it. And WRT Gentiles and tax collectors, the good Pastor called them 'outcasts," "pagans,' who were excommunicated from the Church. I get the distinct impression that you are not in good company by your posts and actions here. Perhaps a leper colony for you is in order. Uclean, unclean, unclean. My dyson DC31 for $200 is out of charge and I'm unclean, unclean, unclean! Carmine D.
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vacmanuk
Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #219 Aug 12, 2009 5:01 pm |
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VacmanUK,<BR><BR>It was a good idea then and continues to be a good idea. Did your letter get a reply?<BR><BR>DIB
Hey DIB Sorry for not getting back to you sooner! I've had probs logging in for the last couple of days since my last post! JD did write a letter of thanks and said that he would consider it. They also considered a lawn mower as well but that still hasn't come out of the company. I was saving up (for ages) to buy Dyson's wonderful washing machine but they stopped production so many years ago; a shame really because the design principle was a good one despite the fact that in the UK they were beset with running problems.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #221 Aug 12, 2009 6:09 pm |
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Thanks for the youtube clip vacmanuk. Black & Decker $60 pivotvac with twice the run time of a dyson DC16 and a fraction of the price puts dyson to shame on the wet kitty litter. And died with the job completion. Noticed that it couldn't devour the kitty litter either with the oblong tool on or off, but the B&D did with no problem and still had a 100 percent motre charge than a DC16 still left. So much for the answer to DIB's moot question. Too bad the old tired cordded DD was not in the competition. It would have beat them all in these tests. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #222 Aug 12, 2009 6:54 pm |
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Thanks for the youtube clip vacmanuk. Black & Decker $60 pivotvac with twice the run time of a dyson DC16 and a fraction of the price puts dyson to shame on the wet kitty litter. And died with the job completion. Noticed that it couldn't devour the kitty litter either with the oblong tool on or off, but the B&D did with no problem and still had a 100 percent motre charge than a DC16 still left. So much for the answer to DIB's moot question. Too bad the old tired cordded DD was not in the competition. It would have beat them all in these tests. Carmine D. Carmine, Your lack of knowledge on how separators work is only eclipsed by your lack of integrity. Want to make a bet? - That I can prove the Popular Mechanics test as a junk test? If I win, you will not post on these boards for 1 year and if I lose, I will not return to these boards for 2 years. I will only disprove the Popular Mechanics - Dyson DC16 outcome. What do you say? Is it a bet? DIB
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