Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

• Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
• 200 watt motor
• 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
• £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

DIB, HS:

The Black & Decker pivot vacuum for $50 gets 5 stars from BEST BUY and 4.5 from Amazon.  This is the make and model that James/dyson targets according to the YouTube video on this thread.  $50 with 4.5 stars?  Versus $200-$300 for 3 stars?  Another tough question for handheld buyers deciding which brand to buy?  Yes, if the buyer is standing in the line waiting for his/her sign from P.T Barnum.

Carmine D.

HS, DIB:

Do me a huge favor.  There are upwards of 2 dozen hand helds on the market today.  Most, if not all, rate and receive better reviews than your fave brand's models.  And all considerably less expensive than dyson by hundreds of percents in price.  Let's take each one by one and detail them here by price and stars.  It will make a mockery out dyson's most expensive handheld on the market compared to all the others.  Please.

Carmine D. 

A more pervasive study of consumer reviews for the Dirt Devil Ultra disclose better results:

Featured Stores	Store Rating		Total Price
	1638 store reviews		$29.99	See It
	793 store reviews		$35.99	See It
	5259 store reviews		$35.99	See It

Carmine D.

In contrast dyson DC16 for $149 doesn't fare much better than the DD Ultra despite the $100 more.

Same question dyson twins:  $149 versus $29?  4 stars versus 3.75 stars.  Give me your answer twins and I'll give you your signs.

Carmine D.

  

Tell me DIB, with your twin's assistance if you need it:  What would hand cleaner users prefer for this clean up job:  The DD for $30 or your fave for $149 plus.  Then add to the flower pot fall on the rug a clean up of the sliding glass door track too.  Yours would be out of a job.  DD would still be up for these and more.

Carmine D.

Now DIB let's really get down and dirty.  Suppose your 5 year old daughter drops the flower pot down 13 carpeted steps and she wants to clean it up by her lonesome.  What product would be the best for her to use?

Carmine D.

PS:  Real life situation.  My grand daughter did this while her mother was washing the clothes.  She quickly went and got the DD hand cleaner to do the job.  The DD was sitting in the closet next to an unused dyson DC07 pink.  My grand daughter cleaned up the mess before her mother had time to see it.  Her mother found her putting the hand cleaner away.

DIB:

It's taken me a dozen or more posts to drive home a point to you which you obviously have not up to this point comprehended.  The answer to one moot, contrived, restricted, and very limited clean up application question that you ask about one product versus another product does not and never will in and of itself provide the best and final choice for users' vacuum purchases. 

Tell me you are starting to get this point.  So I can reduce my number of posts here for your needed reading and edification.  It's not that hard.  If a 6 year old gets it without any difficulty, certainly there's hope too for you!

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Carmine - I don't think this comparison is valid for your argument. Those are store ratings, not product ratings. Notice how the Amazon score / number of reviews is identical across both products?

M00seUK:

I wholeheartedly agree.  These tend to be higher than product reviews.  But they are also more numerous balancing out wide fluctuations in small numbers of product review.  Such is the case with the product reviews for dyson's DC16 from BEST BUY consumers.  Of the 9 reviews most save 2 are 1 star.  The 2 for 5 stars skews the overall star rating.  Ratings whether store/product are only one factor of the purchase decision by vacuum consumers.  Not the end all and be all of the buy decisions.  The latter is my point to those who hold up star ratings and chartes as indicative of a product's performance and people's satisfaction.  They are to an extent but very limited.  As I always tell and say, tell me the star rating you want and I'll find it for you somewhere from a source who collects the information

Carmine D.

Moose,
I noticed the same. I did not bring it to Carmine's attention because I knew that he would try to justify his error in his usual manner.
Using Carmine's logic in his response I found a 4.6 star rating for a lawn mower that I like. I know they are not the same products. However, with Carmine's logic as long as I like both brands I can use the high star rating to justify my preference for both products.