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DysonInventsBig


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Original Message   Mar 1, 2009 5:50 pm
Story here:  http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/40463852.html

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CarmineD


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Reply #135   Jul 27, 2009 6:12 pm
HS:

I'm retired from the vacuum store business.  Have been since 1992.  Tho I worked as an industry consultant up to 2006.  I speak for the indies of which MOLE is one.  Not for MOLE.  He does fine for himself with you dyson twins.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Reply #136   Jul 27, 2009 6:18 pm
It's moved.
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CarmineD


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Reply #137   Jul 27, 2009 6:22 pm
Yes, DIB and its made by the same company that makes the 2 wheel barrow for LOWE's: Jackson.  Back to the beginning.  The upshot of the ballbarrow is a 2 wheel barrow with 2X the capacity as the ballbarrow and less expensive in price.

Thank you.

Carmine D.

Poster's Note: Response to DIB who posted a picture of a Jackson one wheel barrow here on the thread.  Subsequently moved.

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CarmineD


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Reply #138   Jul 27, 2009 6:24 pm
BTW, DIB I got you so mixed up you posted on the wrong thread.  Or perhaps, you did so intentionally since you can't dispute the facts I posted on either, so you revert to confuse the issues!  Good dyson strategy.

Carmine D.

Poster's Note:  DIB moved the post to the correct thread.  Dazed by the overwhelming volume of facts about wheel barrows that I provided to him, he posted responses on the wrong thread. 

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HARDSELL


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Reply #139   Jul 27, 2009 6:29 pm
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

I'm retired from the vacuum store business.  Have been since 1992.  Tho I worked as an industry consultant up to 2006.  I speak for the indies of which MOLE is one.  Not for MOLE.  He does fine for himself with you dyson twins.

Carmine D.


That is like any repairman who quit in 1992.  So much more technology in a few years that you are lost.  OTH, Dyson is the only new technology in vacuums. 

I know about the consulting.  Dyson shoved a vac up your sitter and you still have trouble sitting. Where you used to sit you now have to stand.

CarmineD


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Reply #140   Jul 27, 2009 6:32 pm
Well HS you know what us old vacuum independents alwys say:  IF YOU DON'T STAND FOR SOMETHING, YOU'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING.  How's that working for you and DIB?

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Reply #141   Jul 27, 2009 6:34 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
It's moved.



You should too!

Carmine D.

procare


Joined: Jul 16, 2009
Points: 192


Reply #142   Jul 28, 2009 12:42 am
DIB,

In reading about the statement "Never Loses Suction" , I see a big error and that is all cleaners can say they never lose suction . If you seal the suction of any vacuum with an inches of waterlift gage it will read the same reading everytime full of dirt or not. That is how Filter Queen had shown people no loss of suction in their bagless vacuum for years.

Dyson shows 250 Airwatts on the DC-14 , 220 Airwatts DC-17 , 135 Airwatts DC-24,  220 Airwatts DC-25 ( the ball) , and 245 Airwatts  DC-28. That was the suction of many cleaners back in 1990. Today there are machines with much more than that. Aren't you regressing a bit ?

                                                                                        Procare

CarmineD


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Reply #143   Jul 28, 2009 12:27 pm
procare wrote:
DIB,

In reading about the statement "Never Loses Suction" , I see a big error and that is all cleaners can say they never lose suction . If you seal the suction of any vacuum with an inches of waterlift gage it will read the same reading everytime full of dirt or not. That is how Filter Queen had shown people no loss of suction in their bagless vacuum for years.

Dyson shows 250 Airwatts on the DC-14 , 220 Airwatts DC-17 , 135 Airwatts DC-24,  220 Airwatts DC-25 ( the ball) , and 245 Airwatts  DC-28. That was the suction of many cleaners back in 1990. Today there are machines with much more than that. Aren't you regressing a bit ?

                                                                                        Procare


Hello Procare:

Welcome.  I agree and add that the filter maintenance [washing in tap water with 24 hours plus for dry time] on dyson's latest and greatest DC28 is 3 months for for pre/final filters.  Regressed here too from the 6 or more months previous cleaning schedules for dysons.  I suspect the reduction in suction power requires more frequent filter cleaning to allow normal operation.  With an increase in price too.  $600. 

Carmine D.

procare


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Points: 192


Reply #144   Jul 28, 2009 10:41 pm
  The DC-28 sounds like it is not made for the American carpets.With the pneumatic acuator and STIFF brushes going deeper into the pile a couple of things would happen.  ONE ) The carpet would be frayed in a year's use and  TWO) airflow would be deminished because of the seal it would cause. Our carpets, the majority have a plastic moisture barrier to keep water from going through because of hot water extraction. In the earlier carpets they breath due to jute back carpeting. That is why older Kirby s could seal to the floor and clean , today they need air openings to let airflow.

                                                                                                                            Procare

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