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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454


Original Message   Mar 1, 2009 5:50 pm
Story here:  http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/40463852.html

This message was modified Mar 1, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #127   Jul 27, 2009 6:59 am
Venson wrote:
DIB,



AND please don't again try to impress upon me how a canister vacuum with thimble-size dust capacity and a nine-inch power nozzle or an upright that feels like you're pushing a truck when set to clean low-pile carpet is supposed to be innovation.

Venson



Hello Venson:

I agree with your entire post.  Excerpted this to add:  Or a vacuum that sits on a ball tried in an upright and canister by GE years [read decades] ago and faded into oblivion.  Just like DIB's fave brand ball, which BTW he paid $300 for a DC15 ball several years ago on clearance from BEST BUY.  It's been superceded by a DC18 and DC24/25 ball.  Has he purchased the latest and greatest ball that he raves here so much about.  No.  Let alone would he do so for MSRP.

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jul 27, 2009 by CarmineD
mole


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Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783


Reply #128   Jul 27, 2009 9:38 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

The more you talk the more you expose and confirm the pathetic underbelly of the two-faced con men.  Glad to see you finally confirm many Dyson-dealers are two-faced and crooks.  It’s amusing to hear how these do-nothin’s laugh at those who get things done.  If I want a lesson in underachieving, I’ll be sure to approach the lying, two-faced, do-nothin *independents.


DiB

*The crooked independents muddy/potentially muddy the waters for the good independents.



Then why dont you visit your local dealers and see whats really going on [welcome to the real world] Y ou might just learn a thing or two. Of course you will getting an earfull about your beloved Dyson and the non vacuum cleaner co that he really is .think you could handle it D.I.B.

Ask your buddy Chris how many he got stuck with?

Please report back with your findings.We will be eagerly waiting.

regards

MOLE

This message was modified Jul 27, 2009 by mole
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Reply #129   Jul 27, 2009 4:54 pm
Mole,

It is baffling to me how you rock-throwing-at-Dyson independents believe the center of the universe begins at independent vacuum dealerships.  My guess is, no more than 3%-5% of all U.S. consumer vacuums sold here sell thru an independent.

You tell me...  why all the Dyson whining.  I know for a fact that Dyson’s sell well at dealers if a dealer chooses to put some thought into it and resolves not making the margins like their other [hyped] vacuums.

As for the excess inventory...  sell it off and sell only Dyson’s folks want.  If given a chance, the neighboring folks would love to support their local retailers and if treated right, then they tell their neighbors.  Dyson is not the problem, the lack of a hefty margin and lack of bag and belt replacement buys are.  Additionally, it is my understanding independents can match price (bundle) like big box.


DIB


CarmineD


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Points: 5894


Reply #130   Jul 27, 2009 5:46 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Mole,

It is baffling to me how you rock-throwing-at-Dyson independents believe the center of the universe begins at independent vacuum dealerships.  My guess is, no more than 3%-5% of all U.S. consumer vacuums sold here sell thru an independent.


DIB


Excuse me MOLE for answering, but now that we know DIB is a dyson pawn I feel obligated to take his challenge.  THo I won't argue his GUESS amount which is WRONG!  I will argue that the bulk of all repaired vacuums 93-95 percent get the work done in the independent vacuum owned and operated stores regardless of where they are sold. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293


Reply #131   Jul 27, 2009 5:56 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Excuse me MOLE for answering, but now that we know DIB is a dyson pawn I feel obligated to take his challenge.  THo I won't argue his GUESS amount which is WRONG!  I will argue that the bulk of all repaired vacuums 93-95 percent get the work done in the independent vacuum owned and operated stores regardless of where they are sold. 

Carmine D.



And there we have it.  Indys do not or do not like to repair Dysons.  Therefore no profit from them.  Is it any wonder that the indys prefer all the others.  $$$$ in repair profits.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #132   Jul 27, 2009 6:02 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
And there we have it.  Indys do not or do not like to repair Dysons.  Therefore no profit from them.  Is it any wonder that the indys prefer all the others.  $$$$ in repair profits.


No not quite HS.  The dyson repairs are too expensive costing $100 and more for clutch failures.  Dyson repair customers don't okay these repairs in the current economic times and/or are so upset with the dyson performance based on the exaggerated claims and/or worried the clutches will fail again, they trade in or leave unclaimed.  Oops, there goes another dyson refurb!

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Points: 5894


Reply #133   Jul 27, 2009 6:06 pm
CarmineD wrote:
No not quite HS.  The dyson repairs are too expensive costing $100 and more for clutch failures.  Dyson repair customers don't okay these repairs in the current economic times and/or are so upset with the dyson performance based on the exaggerated claims and/or worried the clutches will fail again, they trade in or leave unclaimed.  Oops, there goes another dyson refurb!

Carmine D.


Recall HS that a past dyson poster here whose name has recently surfaced bragged that he would pay off his mortgage with dyson repairs.  Didn't happen.  Customers didn't pay for the repairs.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293


Reply #134   Jul 27, 2009 6:08 pm
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

I call them as I see them.  There is a valid reason that the vacuum cleaner store owners and operators [the backbone of the vacuum industry in the USA, not the supposed innovators with 475 paid engineers who charge luxury prices for nothing more than average with a sugar coated marketed as in hype] are called indies as in independents.  They don't cotton and/or are beholden to any one brand.  They pck and choose the best for their clientele for the price. They are not puppets on a string manipulated by a pied piper called James like you are here. 

Your theory about a huge nationwide independent vacuum store owner/operator conspiracy against dyson and James is a hoax, a con, just like many of the dyson product claims.  It's the pied piper's calling to keep you in tow.

Carmine D.


Maybe you should quit speaking for mole since it continues to make you look bad.  I believe he has a conspiracy judging from his words. Since you two speak for the indys there just may be a conspiracy.

mole wrote:

Hey DIB.
I see your still following the Dyson credo,I am happy for you,of course you have to or else Jimmy would cut you loose like GASKO.The indys are in business to make a living just like you, Any independent that can handle this downturn are going to comeback even stronger, Just so you know many already have,Its not by luck but by knowledge and treating the customer right,Trust me its not always about the money motive.

You can mark my words By the time i get done with dyson and his band of thieves and con men.They will be growing their own potatoes again ,just to survive,,,,,,,,,,,,


regards

MOLE


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #135   Jul 27, 2009 6:12 pm
HS:

I'm retired from the vacuum store business.  Have been since 1992.  Tho I worked as an industry consultant up to 2006.  I speak for the indies of which MOLE is one.  Not for MOLE.  He does fine for himself with you dyson twins.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454


Reply #136   Jul 27, 2009 6:18 pm
It's moved.
This message was modified Jul 27, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



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