Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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CarmineD wrote:
Carmine,

If done deliberately or not, there has been plenty of time for correction.  I accept a certain amount of lack-of-integrity here, I do not accept changing others words.  No one was backing up what Dusty (a dealer) stated and I thought I would.

I've met and like Tom.  I have not spoke to him is some time, I wish him well in all his endeavors.  I thought it was most kind to invite you to the museum.  After reading what Motorhead posted of the museum, it sounds like the only one in the world at this magnitude and caliber.  It’s funny...  the guy who is uninvited to a *silly vacuum club goes on to run (not sure of his title) and/or open the **worlds largest vacuum museum.  Too funny.


DIB

*My words only.
**I’ve yet to hear of anything bigger.

Rather than have everyone guess or assume, one would think the poster of said error would clarify things and explain how it happened.

Dusty

The said poster Me did it on purpose would i do it again  Yes in a heartbeat,All you clowns are clueless.H,S, knows that Carmine was an independent dealer for many years,And his distain for Carmine is because Dyson tried the dealers first and the dealers REJECTED Dyson in a hurry,So H.S. lumps all vac shop owners as unethical,greedy,rip off artists,who should be banned from ever putting a key in the door.

I have been following this trend for 5 years now.
So hows this for HONESTY D,I,B,, YOUR NOTHING BUT A CORPORATE CLINGON HIDING BEHIND i SUPPORT INVENTORS, Your so full of B,S, your eyes should be brown.......

REGARDS

MOLE

mole wrote:
Mole,

Of course you changed HS words deliberately to fit your motives.  Carmine (a fellow dealer-brother con) said it was a computer error and that too was a con.

Profit margin is KING with independent dealers.  Dealers turn down Dyson primarily for this reason only.  The DC07 has a miniscule $120 or so margin and a $0 bags and belts margin.  Economics (huge margins of hyped tired vacuums), not Dyson products are the reasons Dyson is lied about by bad-mouthing-sellers of competitive vacuums and/or there are the jealous of Dyson’s success independents too.  So-called hi-end vac’s have margins 4-8 times that of the DC07, anyone can do the math.  Many in sales/services of all kinds are happy with their career choices. Yet and for some pathetic reason many bad-mouthing part swapper independent Dealers are frustrated when they watch what looks to them...  was easy money and fame Dyson achieved.  Bad-mouthing independents fail to recognize Sir James is very intelligent and this God given intelligence and courage and against the odds determination and not luck made him.  As for your Dyson likes to sue and other garbage claims, they too are simply another con... I’ve seen many of the lawsuits and Dyson has very few on file.  So the Dyson is sue-happy con that you and Carmine use is just that...  a con.

Dyson spends/has spent up to $45m annually in U.S. advertising.  When your hyped-made with in the public domain, off-the-shelf parts and design vacuums spend nothing in advertising this translates into bigger margins for independent dealers.  And since the tired vacuum manufacturers spend little to nothing in R&D this translates into more or bigger margins for the independent dealers.  Manufacturers sell em cheap and vac’s are marked up astronomically and hyped as special.  They vac alike/almost alike and filter no better than any sack N choke.

Remember...  inventors like Dyson do what they do so guys like you can wake up and have a job.  Bad-mouther’s and rock-throwers are a dime-a-dozen, creators of life changing, job creating, wealth creating widgets or service’s are not.

Remember... it was you who illustrated how easy it is to make strong sack N choke vacuums using junk parts.  Vice Dyson...  Dyson holds many utility patents, which translates into world exclusives and moneymakers.  The vac’s you sell can be equaled with junk parts and sold to the public and it’s all perfectly legal.  Not so with Dyson.  Bissell and TTI for example had to wait (or almost) 20 years until they could make a dual cyclone.  The Ball is a Dyson world exclusive and moneymaker and cannot be copied until year 2025 or so.  Dyson has the cleanest hose/wand combo exclusive on the planet.  Again, your high margined, "hyped as special vac’s" can be made and equaled/near equaled and sold publicly using junk parts and it's all perfectly legal.  Not so with Dyson, patent laws protect Dyson, a reward system for hard work and intelligence.


DIB

P.S.  Certainly many independents are honest, but most are not.  Independents and/or their enthusiast’s buddies are the number one Dyson bad-mouther’s posing as consumers at review sites.  Fact.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
Fact! It's ironic that you spelled intelligence wrong. :D

lazaruspup wrote:
Pointing to a misspell, all the while not saying a word to the many Dyson bad-mouther's who fail to capitalize, punctuate and who basically write like 4th graders.  Typical.

DIB

Hello DIB:

It's a con that HS did it deliberately.  He's yanking your chain and you reacted just as predicted.  A tirade against the personal and professional integrity and business acumen of people, who in most cases, have been in the vacuum industry for more years than you been taking breaths.  You would have us believe that these business professionals did so in bad times and good by being dishonest?  Now that's a con par excellence. 

Carmine D

mole wrote:

Hello MOLE:

I'll second that and DIB's response is proof positive.  As usual MOLE, you hit the nail on the head!  Nice work!

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:

As you know TOM GASKO was a long time advocate of dyson in the beginning even before it moved here.  His support for dyson and James is legendary.  Probably your mentor.  At one point even considering calling his store the dyson store.  I advised him against it.  if he's honest he'll tell you so.  His actions and public words caused SIMPLICITY to drop him because TOM was not meeting the rules and regs of an authorized dealer.  TOM was upset.  I told him at the time to bide his time and all things would get resolved.  If he's honest he'll tell you so.  It appears now I was right on both accounts.  As MOLE said, you miss TOM as a dyson dealer partner here.  You and HS are left w/o Matt mmc Airblade too.  The old dyson crowd is dwindling with time and a track record.  The test of time.  That's how independents stay in business for the long haul.  They pass with integrity the test of time. 

Carmine D. 

Hey DIB.
I see your still following the Dyson credo,I am happy for you,of course you have to or else Jimmy would cut you loose like GASKO.The indys are in business to make a living just like you, Any independent that can handle this downturn are going to comeback even stronger, Just so you know many already have,Its not by luck but by knowledge and treating the customer right,Trust me its not always about the money motive.

You can mark my words By the time i get done with dyson and his band of thieves and con men.They will be growing their own potatoes again ,just to survive,,,,,,,,,,,,


regards

MOLE