Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:

You're adroit at avoiding questions and asking your own to divert the issues/subject matter.  I asked you of what value is a $500 plus innovative technological product that fails its users within months of purchase.  I'm specifically referring to a DC25 with defective motor wiring harness which THE AUTHORIZED DYSON DEALER OF NORTH LAS VEGAS refuses to sell.  If you answer my question you will have the answer to your question.  Eye on the prize, my friend!

WRT to 2008 and 2009 vacuum sales, the two worse years for vacuum sales in the industry in decades, it has been said by me, and others, that the clear winners, industry leaders, and prize getters [for product sales] are ORECK and TTI/HOOVER.  For the latter I would also add that Consumer Reports has declared HOOVER the "leading brand seller" AND rated 7 of HOOVER's uprights in its top 20 uprights.  Including the number ONE position.  Eye on the prize! 

Carmine D.

retardturtle1 wrote:

Hello 'turtle1"

I would add to your opinions about Shark products that the consumer editor/writer of the Wall Street Journal on two separate occasions rated the Shark held held vacuum for $40 and Steam Mop for $80 as the top performers in their class among a filed of competitors.  I posted these reported findings from the articles on this page at the time and some time ago probably before your tenure.  Eye on the prize!

Carmine D.

PS 'turtle1':  I agree with you.  Dyson is a niche seller and of late is struggling unsuccessfully to keep its market share of sales year over year even in the UK.  It's less expensive [read more affordable] and often times better performing bagged/bagless vacuum products of the competition are gradually eroding dyson's once prominent sales position.  Which by the way was constantly blasted to the vacuum industry by dyson and its supporters.  Not to mention that the global meltdown in consumer buying and confidence has sounded a solemn death knell for the over priced, over hyped, over hawked 'd' brand.  If it doesn't reinvent itself, win favor with its products among industry watchers, and slash prices, dyson will go the same route as halo.

Carmine D

DysonInventsBig wrote:

What good is a steerable $400/$500 plus product/niche market if the darn thing doesn't perform after a few months and/or get under furniture and beds?  Another question that will go unanswered.

Innovation is highly overrated, especially in a down global economy.  Reference: HALO!!!  $70 BISSELL bagged/bagless Clearviews, $199 ORECK uprights and $80 HOOVER TEMPO vacuums sell well and always in good times and bad.  AND they perform better than your steerables for much less.

Carmine D.

BTW DIB would you care to share your historical observations about halo and its web page with us again for the record!

What were your exact words:  The high tech web page will sell MILLIONS!  Was that it?  Please correct me if I'm wrong.  What happened to halo?  Bought by a competitor you like to bash here for a bargain basement price less than a year after you made your infamous prediction!  Now what was that you were saying about dyson products?  Mainstream?  Top seller?  Where?  Not even in your or HS houshold!  With loyal customers like you, no wonder dyson is missing in action on 2008 financial comments/reports.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Sounds like you when you said the Hoover Fusion and "z" would be the down fall of Dyson.  It didn't happen.Hoover went busted and Dyson is surviving.

CarmineD wrote:

Do you honestly think that the vac industry sales in any city that you live in is indicative of what is hapening nationally?  What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.  Low Dyson sales there is not indicitave of their survival or failure.  Same as where you moved from.

Hoover (per you) was going great when it went busted a couple years back. 

HARDSELL wrote:

Hello HS:

The oustanding sales of HOOVER Fusion [a TTI sourced bagless upright] at Wal*Mart stores was instrumental for dropping dyson's DC07 Original for several years.  Least I remind you it is still going strong after several generations of newer and better models.  Z is still in the HOOVER TTI line up.  How many discontinued dysons still are?  BTW how many new dysons have you added to your household.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

There you go again with your dyson colored glasses.  At least you have the honesty to admit that dyson sales are tanking in Las Vegas and the metro Washington DC area.  May I add ORECK and HOOVER are going great guns from the reports I receive.  Watch the sales and ads nationwide HS.  What vacuum makes and models are always in the retailers' pages?Not high priced dysons.  Waste of advertising money.  Unless like BEST BUY stores recently offering a $100 off the latest and greatest dyson DC28 for $600 [sale price $509] within the same month of launch.  Why?  To generate some sales. 

No my dear dyson friend:  Dyson sales are tanking globally not just in one or two cities in the USA.  You and your dyson twin are in denial.  The dyson party's over.  Dyson needs to revamp and revise its prices and products, get some favorable sales exposure from the experts including the indies, and hope the global economy recovers.  If not, it's sayonara on the old metal guitar for your fave company.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

You have stated more than once that pricing was the issue between WM and Dyson.  Fusion is not going strong.  Most all Hoovers are in their lineup.  If anything this had more to do with their downfall than profitability.  Last I heard the Z was going for $50 and still not selling.

How many Hoovers have you added since discovering Oreck?  No need to keep inferior models like Hoover (if the newer are better).  I liked the DC07 and you know that I have not been positive about its replacements.