Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

There you go again!  If you are sales puffing with your rose color dyson glasses, fine I can grin and bear the farcical.  If however you are making a statement of fact for us to believe as fact, please provide the sales numbers of the dyson ball models [DC24/25] at any one of these retailers for 2008/2009 as evidence.  I'm told by several store staffs at all these retailers in LV that there is zero demand among its vacuum buying consumers for dyson ball models.  They can't tell me the last time they sold one in the recent past, even with sales and discounts. 

BTW, did Sir James and his engineers resolve/correct the wiring harness defects on its DC25 ball.  The wires come undone rendering the vacuums totally inoperable within just months of purchase.  I know at least one authorized dyson dealer for North Las Vegas who has refused to sell new DC25 $#%* for several months now because of the warranty returns on this model for the motor wiring harnesses.  He keeps a sample handy to show customers who ask about the DC25, like I did.  Here's a question for you to mull and stew over and answer.  How much is Innovative technology costing  $500 worth if it's dead within a few months of purchase?

Carmine D.

Oreck goes at it in similar fashion although weight,made in the states, sanitary disposal,remember the 80 year old woman holding the oreck over her head on the cartons in the dealers, Its all in the marketing both DYSON and ORECK have found its nitch markets,is one better than the other [thats for the customer to decide].

As for dyson and oreck  ITS BEEN A GOOD RIDE. And he who has the slickest ads will win,and the most money.

Lets face it where else can you get people to buy a 89.95 vacuum for 500.00 plus.

b.t.w watch out for falling prices,Its getting tuff out there,all that will be left is wally world, and casinos..................

regards

MOLE

Tho dyson and its supporters here taut more vacuum patents than all the other vacuum brands from the beginning of time, it costs buku money to pay an in-house cadre of lawyers and have on call an outside group of lawyers to protect and defend those patents.  Money that a company with falling sales GLOBALLY year over year for the last 3 years can't afford to shell out.

To ORECK's credit, it scarfed up it's competitor's technology at bargain basement prices.  It owns all of halo's rights now.  A smart business move on ORECK's part.  It didn't cost ORECK the yearly salaries of 475 engineers on staff and who knows how many more high paid lawyers.

Innovation in hard economic times is highly overrated.  A simple basic BISSELL Clearview for $70, ORECK for $199, and HOOVER TEMPO for $85 is an easy sell all the time, not just when times are good.

Carmine D. 

DIB, very simple on the bagless models for typical bagged brands.  They are cloning your fave brand and selling cheaper in a down vacuum market/economy to push your high priced brand out!  Dyson may go the same way as halo, and one od the clones might buy up dyson's patent rights dirt cheap.  That's what happens in down markets. 

HS, ORECK did better than your fave brand in 2008 and so far in 2009.  How do I know?  Tom ORECK told me and all others so on national news [FNN].  It's been posted here.  That's why a host of other vacuum brands including the latest Garry are imitating ORECK's giveaways and lightweight products.  Your fave brand too.  As I said, ORECK bought the rights to the competition at bargain basement prices.  Why?  Eliminate the competition.  

Carmine D. 

Dyson is not exactly competition for Oreck.  Dyson buyers prefer cleaning power over gimmick gifts and a machine that has to be rebuilt annually (at best).

You know that ORECK's sales numbers are proprietary information and released to the public only on a need to know bases.  I'll be as specific about Tom Oreck's remarks on the ORECK financial results for 2008 aired on FNN [which BTW he made in January 2009] as Tom.  ORECK was the first vacuum brand in the industry to comment on 2008 sales results.  What about your fave brand?  Missing in action? 

I'll paraphrase Tom's comments, which were posted here from the FNN video clip:  2008 ORECK sales were not as good as hoped  and predicted BUT were much better than many of our leading competitors' brands.  That's all that really matters.  Dyson and ORECK are competitors.  Most recently since the DC18 Slim for $469 then DC24 ball for $399 which compete head on with ORECK.  The Slim is gone.  Discontinued by dyson.  DC24 is sitting unsold on shelves and will go the way of the DC18 if prices are not slashed.  Meanwhile ORECK is chugging along keeping its competition at bay.  So waht dysons do you and DIB own and use?

Carmine D.

Carmine D.

You know that ORECK's sales numbers are proprietary information and released to the public only on a need to know bases.  I'll be as specific about Tom Oreck's remarks on the ORECK financial results for 2008 aired on FNN [which BTW he made in January 2009] as Tom.  ORECK was the first vacuum brand in the industry to comment on 2008 sales results.  What about your fave brand?  Missing in action? 

I'll paraphrase Tom's comments, which were posted here from the FNN video clip:  2008 ORECK sales were not as good as hoped and predicted BUT were much better than many of our leading competitors' brands.  That's all that really matters.  Dyson and ORECK are competitors.  Most recently since the DC18 Slim for $469 then DC24 ball for $399 which compete head on with ORECK.  The Slim is gone.  Discontinued by dyson.  DC24 is sitting unsold on shelves and will go the way of the DC18 if prices are not slashed.  Meanwhile ORECK is chugging along keeping its competition at bay.  So waht dysons do you and DIB own and use?

Carmine D.