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M00seUK


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Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Original Message   Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am
In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

  • Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
  • 200 watt motor
  • 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
  • £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

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retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #64   Jul 11, 2009 8:07 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi 'turtle1'

According to Forbes magazine:  James was worth $2 B in 2006 [probably his best year for profitability]; $1.7 B in 2007 [the recession set in the last quarter of 2007], and $1.2 B in 2008 [officially th recession date is January 2008 and still].  Do you see which way the trend is going for dyson?  James may be in the millionaire class now in 2009.  Beyond?  Who knows?  Still not bad for him.  However, the wealth editor of the Forbes magazine who tracks and publishes the yearly list of the world's richest, says on record that the billionaires who fall are the ones who fall the hardest.   They get use to the perks and celebrity treatment.  When that goes away, they don't adjust very well. 

Carmine D.

hi carmine

yeah i can see that...how a change like that can totally mess up  your chi....your happy place.

kinda like when my sweet  wife and i were dating and she'd come over and cook nice dinners all the time....now this is heaven id say...my hard workig man needs a good dinner  she'd say.

then oneday we got married.......... and now the cashiers at mcdonalds know us by name....so i myself havent ajusted very well either. hahaha

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #65   Jul 12, 2009 4:28 am
Does dyson have any plans at all ''to ever put a cord on this   [removeable  for  cordless  use]  Id see it  as a really good move. ..make it more universal 

OR is he going to sell it till its sales hit bottom....then revive it in another color w/ removeable cord...at a deep price cut? to stay close to the more powerful

half the price  corded comp ? or is everything dyson makes going to be and stay in the higher priced  niche category , that gets outperformed by all

at a much lower price.  With a very competitive price and A CORD.....i see this being dysons only product that can compete or has a chance at breaking loose of the niche lable.  

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #66   Jul 12, 2009 7:03 am
Hello 'turtle1'

A short history of McDonalds:  A purchase of 100 shares in April 1965 at $2200 by August 1987 resulted in 18,000 shares at $500,000 if the owner reinvested all the stock dividends into new shares.  One of my favorite places for coffee.  And I must admit I indulge in a big Mac and fries with a Coke every so often too. 

On the DC30 and DC31, a separate cord in a rewinder that can be attached and detached to the unit and not part of the held held weight when used with the cord.  Excellent idea.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #67   Jul 12, 2009 11:32 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello 'turtle1'

A short history of McDonalds:  A purchase of 100 shares in April 1965 at $2200 by August 1987 resulted in 18,000 shares at $500,000 if the owner reinvested all the stock dividends into new shares.  One of my favorite places for coffee.  And I must admit I indulge in a big Mac and fries with a Coke every so often too. 

On the DC30 and DC31, a separate cord in a rewinder that can be attached and detached to the unit and not part of the held held weight when used with the cord.  Excellent idea.

Carmine D.

hi carmine

As a kid in the 80s i can remember dad saying how he wished he had a piece of mcdonalds...instead of NATIONAL / PAN-AM airlines....if only.

i had my product tester / evaluator [my wife]..try his handheld...watch a UT video.....thinks it looks like one of those SCUNCE steamers.....not too heavy but needs cord and hasnt much power beyond that of a small dustbuster her grandma used to have...willing to put up with a loud motor only if its got the power  / suction  to offset. but a larger  battery or much heavier version would make it heavy on wrist...overall / likes the look , doesnt mind emptying cup aft each use , needs detachable cord , power not on par with the price....way overpriced....get more for much less from its competitors.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #68   Jul 12, 2009 4:54 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
hi carmine

As a kid in the 80s i can remember dad saying how he wished he had a piece of mcdonalds...instead of NATIONAL / PAN-AM airlines....if only.

i had my product tester / evaluator [my wife]..try his handheld...watch a UT video.....thinks it looks like one of those SCUNCE steamers.....not too heavy but needs cord and hasnt much power beyond that of a small dustbuster her grandma used to have...willing to put up with a loud motor only if its got the power  / suction  to offset. but a larger  battery or much heavier version would make it heavy on wrist...overall / likes the look , doesnt mind emptying cup aft each use , needs detachable cord , power not on par with the price....way overpriced....get more for much less from its competitors.



Hello 'Turtle1'

Just as Wal*Mart has profited from the trading down effect of consumers during the the current economic downturn, so has McDonald's.  People accustomed to eating out weekly at Red Lobster, Appleby's, TGI Friday's, Ruby Tuesday, Olive Garden etc are doing frequenting fast food places like McDonalds.  Never to late to own it.  Ask yourself a question;  In 30 years what fast food eateries will still be around and doing well?  Mac's.  Mac's offers a "direct purchase' investment plan.  Investors can ante up as much as they want whenever they want and buy shares/fractions of shares of Mac's with very small if no buy commissions like those charged by the stock brokers.  Worth a look especially for parents who want to teach their children about stock/company ownership while squirreling away money for college.

James is desperate.  Pulling out all the stops and flooding the market with everything he's got now in hopes of pumping up sales.  It won't matter.  Like Venson cogently says, people aren't spending on expensive household appliances.  The goal among the working families, fearful of losing their jobs if they haven't already, is to keep things working with parts and repairs.  Dyson falls short there too with its vacuums oftentimes going unclaimed among repair shops and/or traded in for other brands.

Carmine D. 

DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #69   Jul 30, 2009 3:10 pm
The DC31 gets a nice write-up.  > http://www.igizmo.co.uk/articles/reviews/1652-lifestyle-dyson-dc31
This message was modified Jul 30, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #70   Jul 30, 2009 5:41 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:


As usual you read with dyson color glasses.  The article points out all the same cons mentioned here aleady that rattled you up when posted:  Bin capacity, battery life and price.  "Only" as in 6 minutes with full power is not a "nice" feature, it's a big bad negative.  What's that about advising others to take a reading comprehension course?  Maybe you should too!  Like I say: Remove the timber from your eye before you criticize the splinter in your neighbor's eye.

Carmine D. 

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
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Points: 1454

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #71   Jul 30, 2009 7:45 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
CarmineD wrote:
As usual you read with dyson color glasses.  The article points out all the same cons mentioned here aleady that rattled you up when posted:  Bin capacity, battery life and price.  "Only" as in 6 minutes with full power is not a "nice" feature, it's a big bad negative.  What's that about advising others to take a reading comprehension course?  Maybe you should too!  Like I say: Remove the timber from your eye before you criticize the splinter in your neighbor's eye.

Carmine D. 


The DC31 was given 4 of 5 stars and the review reads...  1) "...can run at 104,000rpm and sucked like a face hugger from Aliens in our tests"2) "...but when it comes to shifting dirt speedily and efficiently the Dyson DC31 blows away the competition".  You reported the negative only and omitted the positive.  You have a credibility issue and quoting scripture can't fix it.


DIB  
This message was modified Jul 30, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



mole


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #72   Jul 30, 2009 10:04 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Dyson dc31= fail

Not to much innovation lately from Jimmy and the merry band of engineers.Did the cam actuator prints get stolen from  CAM DYNAMICS OR COMPETITION CAMS..The airmuscle sounds like a new slogan for the W.W.E,

Does dyson get his cords from volex????????????????

regards

MOLE
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #73   Jul 31, 2009 6:36 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
The DC31 was given 4 of 5 stars and the review reads...  1) "...can run at 104,000rpm and sucked like a face hugger from Aliens in our tests"2) "...but when it comes to shifting dirt speedily and efficiently the Dyson DC31 blows away the competition".  You reported the negative only and omitted the positive.  You have a credibility issue and quoting scripture can't fix it.


DIB  

No DIB, quoting scripture, as in knowing the Word, is only half the mission.  The other half is putting it into practice in our daily lives. 

What you should have said was that this DC31 review is balanced, pointing out the good and bad.  Nice is not a good description for a new product review.  It gives the wrong impression.  After all these years here and reading my posts to you, you disappoint me just like Dave dyson.

Carmine D.

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