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M00seUK

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Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Original Message Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am

In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
200 watt motor
65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
Ł129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version Ł149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

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DysonInventsBig

Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #25 Jun 29, 2009 11:38 am

mole wrote:

Whens the OPRAH segment coming?

Are they throwing in the hand vac to compliment the dc28 giveaway?

Whens Sir James going on top gear???????

regards

MOLE

He already has, of sorts... about a year or so ago, Jeremy Clarkson demo’d the Porsche Carrera and talked of it’s clean emissions and said “It’s like a Dyson”. Dyson like no others, enjoys much free press.

DIB

DysonInventsBig

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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #26 Jun 29, 2009 12:05 pm

Venson wrote:

DIB,

I not the least bit confused. The issue to me is having a simple machine to handle simple jobs. However, here we have all this wonderful -- and expensive -- technology just to get donut crumbs out of my car.

As I said, my little ten dollar tub will do just fine. Should it fail, I'll roll the car around to the house and run a dord out. (Done it before.) AND gas plus juice included for the task, I'll come out cheaper.

Venson

Venson,

There is money to be made and new ground to break. Dyson achieves this with this tiny DDM invention and product. The upside of being a private company... no one other than its owner controls what direction it takes or products they should pursue. Dyson believes (seen the DC16 sales evidence?) he will sell 1,000,000 units.

DIB

Venson

Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #27 Jun 29, 2009 12:42 pm

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Venson, There is money to be made and new ground to break. Dyson achieves this with this tiny DDM invention and product. The upside of being a private company... no one other than its owner controls what direction it takes or products they should pursue. Dyson believes (seen the DC16 sales evidence?) he will sell 1,000,000 units. DIB

Point well taken DIB but I'm not worried over who breaks new ground with a hand vacuum cleaner. We still have AIDS, cancer and the common cold to cure along with an economy also badly in need of a doctor. Being generous, even if bonafide proof is made public that he managed to unload 100,000 of these doo-hickeys I'll be surprised.

Venson

CarmineD

Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #28 Jun 29, 2009 1:47 pm

DysonInventsBig wrote:

And Carmine is classic Carmine...
DIB

Hello DIB:

Thank you kindly for the gracious compliment. I knew if I lived long enough I would be a classic.

Carmine D.

CarmineD

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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #29 Jun 29, 2009 1:48 pm

Venson wrote:

I'm going to live, darn it!

Venson

Hi Venson:

Beats the alternative!

Carmine D.

CarmineD

Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #30 Jun 29, 2009 1:53 pm

Model2 wrote:

There was no smoke-and-mirrors "demo" of the product. All in attendance - media reps, journalists, etc. were gifted DC31s, allowing them to try the product out in their own home environment, and subject it to any task or performance test they should wish to.

Hello Model2:

In the old days, before your time, the pitchman would invite the crowd and demo the product. Then, sell and take orders based on the actual performance. New age sales is to invite a few in for a verbal dog and pony show complete with pretty associate and pictures and give away the products. Being a classic, I prefer the old way.

Carmine D.

CarmineD

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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #31 Jun 29, 2009 1:59 pm

I thought it disengenuous of James to compare the latest dyson handheld to B&D pivot hand vac. As I recall the B&D pivot vac for $60 was around when dyson intro'ed the DC16 several years ago.

More appropriately, dyson should be comparing his latest to the TTI's accucharge hand and stick vacuum. These are the latest competitors and in my opinion trump dyson on price and run time.

Carmine D.

Venson

Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #32 Jun 29, 2009 2:21 pm

CarmineD wrote:

I thought it disengenuous of James to compare the latest dyson handheld to B&D pivot hand vac. As I recall the B&D pivot vac for $60 was around when dyson intro'ed the DC16 several years ago. More appropriately, dyson should be comparing his latest to the TTI's accucharge hand and stick vacuum. These are the latest competitors and in my opinion trump dyson on price and run time. Carmine D.

Hi Carmine,

I don't think Dyson is prepared to take on the AccuCharge thing from TTI as, if I am correct, the run time even if by a couple minutes or two is indeed longer and -- it wasn't his idea in the first place. The only thing worth hearing after that is that his will run for at least a minimum of 15 minutes before cut-off.

The B&D Pivot vac does quite well for the money -- and least half the money at that. That's what consumers will be banking in the stores.

Venson

CarmineD

Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #33 Jun 29, 2009 2:31 pm

Venson wrote:

Hi Model2,

I also thank you much for the video link but have to say I am also unimpressed by Dyson's presentation. A lot of talk but little action.

I guess I'm beginning to think like Carmine. The thing I was waiting to see here was a real-deal demo. I am not overly concerned about the high-filtration capability of a battery operated hand vacuum as they are not used for long periods of time. This also negates Dyson's mention of the brushless motor and no carbon emissions -- a silly point for this type of vacuum. Furthermore, his even bothering to lend even five seconds attention to those issues made me doubt the man's line of thought. Too much science and too little practicality.

What I did notice, per Dyson though he did not say so outright, was that the battery/electronic system, as claimed, emulates the set-up for the Hoover Platinum stick vac -- it runs full speed for ten minutes and stops once full power can't be delivered.

I'll stick with my ten-dollar plug-in thingy and be happy for the time being I think.

Best,

Venson

Hi Venson:

Thank you for the highest compliment of all. I agree with your assessment of dyson and TTI's accucharge cordless products. Dyson can't compare to HOOVER/DIRT DEVIL on price, run time, and/or performance. Accucharge earns the Energy Star ratings too. Dyson is silent on the matter.

I don't know the latest warranty on dyson's DC30 and 31. If it's 2 years, like the DC16, TTI/HOOVER has dyson beat there too: 3 years for HOOVER platinum lynx handheld.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1

Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #34 Jun 29, 2009 3:14 pm

Venson wrote:

in reality its not very hard to find a vacuum in any catagory to match or exceed a dysons performance

.....at a fraction of the cost...its been that way for years

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