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M00seUK


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Points: 295

Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Original Message   Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am
In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

  • Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
  • 200 watt motor
  • 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
  • £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

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Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
Points: 121

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #6   Jun 26, 2009 2:25 pm
Acerone wrote:
I really would have liked to have seen an option power cord.. 6 to 10 minutes isn't enough time...



It may be enough for removing surface crumbs, but nowhere near long enough for removing deeply embedded grit from car mats and carpets.

Nope, you have to have a mains operated cleaner to get the grit.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #7   Jun 26, 2009 5:39 pm

Trilobite wrote:

It may be enough for removing surface crumbs, but nowhere near long enough for removing deeply embedded grit from car mats and carpets.

Nope, you have to have a mains operated cleaner to get the grit.

way overpriced..far too many outhere that can outperform it for alot less $$..[riccar,hvr,pansc,oreck]  .and just as durable . ...great tech with the digital motor..cool looks ...but not at that price.
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #8   Jun 26, 2009 7:03 pm
Hi,

A main part of my argument all along has been affordability. There are far fewer of us now able to follow whim when it comes to spending. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Dyson accountant's office and learn just how many of these ACTUALLY sell.

The "turtle" is correct in that a small lightweight canister vacuum, bagged or bagless, is by far the better deal. A 60-buck vac with an upholstery nozzle can take you a lot further for a lot less money as it has potential use possibilities all over the house.

I make only one exception. As is so typical of New York, paying for something but getting nothing I mean, my car housed in a private garage that has no electricity. Because that meant that I couldn't just bring a household vacuum around from my place to clean the car, I got one of those little mini-can vacs that plug directly into the cigarette lighter for power.

It's a ten-dollar deal that you can't necessarily rave about but gets the job done with a little effort. I especially like its having a hose plus a small nozzle and a crevice tool. That makes it far easier to pursue dust under and between seats and other hard to get at areas.

I can't understand why Dyson simply doesn't put together some kind of electrical adapter to allow the same sort of power hook-up -- or maybe that's too simple.

Best,

Venson
retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #9   Jun 27, 2009 12:23 am

Venson wrote:

Hi,

A main part of my argument all along has been affordability. There are far fewer of us now able to follow whim when it comes to spending. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Dyson accountant's office and learn just how many of these ACTUALLY sell.

The "turtle" is correct in that a small lightweight canister vacuum, bagged or bagless, is by far the better deal. A 60-buck vac with an upholstery nozzle can take you a lot further for a lot less money as it has potential use possibilities all over the house.

I make only one exception. As is so typical of New York, paying for something but getting nothing I mean, my car housed in a private garage that has no electricity. Because that meant that I couldn't just bring a household vacuum around from my place to clean the car, I got one of those little mini-can vacs that plug directly into the cigarette lighter for power.

It's a ten-dollar deal that you can't necessarily rave about but gets the job done with a little effort. I especially like its having a hose plus a small nozzle and a crevice tool. That makes it far easier to pursue dust under and between seats and other hard to get at areas.

I can't understand why Dyson simply doesn't put together some kind of electrical adapter to allow the same sort of power hook-up -- or maybe that's too simple.

Best,

Venson

hi venson

so true...i lived in chicago for a number of years and am all too familiar with a garage &no power...you made an excellent point....i think all small cans ,or rechareables especially should also come w a car kit hook up....but at dysons price point..it should be mandatory 12v/120v/rechargeable flexability..cords included...i know u can buy a converter with a cig  [plug in]  on one end and a [receptical ] on the other ...just gotta watch your amp draw....under 20$ if im not mistaken.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #10   Jun 28, 2009 4:43 pm
M00seUK wrote:
In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

  • Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
  • 200 watt motor
  • 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
  • £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.


Thanks for the post/news.

DIB


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #11   Jun 29, 2009 7:00 am
What is the noise level on this new dyson hand held?

Carmine D.

Model2


~ It Beats...as it Sweeps...as it Cleans ~

Location: England
Joined: Jan 8, 2009
Points: 155

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #12   Jun 29, 2009 7:28 am
James Dyson Unveils DC30 and DC31



~ However Clean - Hoover Cleaner ~
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #13   Jun 29, 2009 8:40 am
Model2 wrote:


Hello Model2 and thanks for the YouTube clip.  I was disappointed by it.  Despite its length its lacking a good demo of the new product.  Couldn't hear the questions and even answers on occasion.  James looks terrible in the video considering he is pitching his latest technology and product. 

My question about the noise level was answered.  My 12 year old lab was half asleep/awake about 3 feet away from the computer.  I turned the speakers on low [my dear Wife is asleep], when James hit the power button on the handheld, the motor squealed like a trapped pig, and my lab jumped up and ran out.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #14   Jun 29, 2009 9:10 am
CarmineD wrote:

My question about the noise level was answered.  My 12 year old lab was half asleep/awake about 3 feet away from the computer.  I turned the speakers on low [my dear Wife is asleep], when James hit the power button on the handheld, the motor squealed like a trapped pig, and my lab jumped up and ran out.

Carmine D.



I opined that the noise and my lab's reaction was an anomaly.  So after my dear wife awoke, I tried again.  Lab in position about 3 feet away from the computer but this time awake and laying down.  Speakers on normal.  James hit the power switch with the revolving brush engaged.  Same reaction.  My lab was up and away in a flash.  She gave me a look from the hallway that asked why I was torturing her like this.  This is the very same pooche that follows me around the whole house when I vacuum with my upright ORECK!

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jun 29, 2009 by CarmineD
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #15   Jun 29, 2009 9:22 am
Hi Model2,

I also thank you much for the video link but have to say I am also unimpressed by Dyson's presentation. A lot of talk but little action.

I guess I'm beginning to think like Carmine. The thing I was waiting to see here was a real-deal demo. I am not overly concerned about the high-filtration capability of a battery operated hand vacuum as they are not used for long periods of time. This also negates Dyson's mention of the brushless motor and no carbon emissions -- a silly point for this type of vacuum. Furthermore, his even bothering to lend even five seconds attention to those issues made me doubt the man's line of thought. Too much science and too little practicality.

What I did notice, per Dyson though he did not say so outright, was that the battery/electronic system, as claimed, emulates the set-up for the Hoover Platinum stick vac -- it runs full speed for ten minutes and stops once full power can't be delivered.

I'll stick with my ten-dollar plug-in thingy and be happy for the time being I think.

Best,

Venson
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