Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

• Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
• 200 watt motor
• 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
• £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

Keep up.  We're talking about hiring the best and brightest engineers from outside of dyson not inside.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
CarmineD wrote:
The “best and brightest?”  What brand and model [utility patented] vacuum could be mechanically proven to be the best and brightest? 

DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hi DIB:

We're talking engineers here.  People not products.  But I'll answer your question in light of handhelds since we are discussing handhelds here.  Since the Youtube video by James targets the $60 B&D pivot vac [the number one choice in handheld by Consumer Reports] as the leading competition, I would vote for it at the price over yours.  I also added that HOOVER/TTI platinum handheld with accucharge, and the energy award, for $120 excels over your infamous brand. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote: Carmine,

We’re talking engineers who’s job it is to make far superior [utility patent/s] products?  The two products you mention mechanically perform exactly alike or nearly alike... hardly requiring the best and brightest.  The best and brightest DO NOT seek jobs [and its accompanying low pay scale] with the innovative-inept.

DIB

So James and all his 475 engineers target the Black & Decker $60 handheld in its Youtube video, why?  And dyson costs $250-$270 plus $60 for attachments?

Because it's afforadble and rated the best by Consumer Reports in its class.  Best as in best and brightest.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
I love it!  You could not answer my question. 

So the cheaper (more affordable) a product is, this proves it was created by the best and brightest.  B&D's willingness to except low margins (because it sells commodities that can be copied freely by others, so they have to except this reality) this is the core reason the product is "affordable".  Nice try though.


DIB

DIB:

I didn't put the $60 B&D pivot vac on the wall for comparison to dyson's $250 handheld.  Sir James did.  He pointed to it as the leader, and so does Consumer Reports.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

I'm just taking your advise - I’m trying to “keep up”...
I say B&D does not put their “best and brightest” in their vacuum division.  I say B&D does not have [utility patented] breakout inventions coming from their vacuum division.  I say the vacuum division is void of the best and brightest.  I say B&D vac engineers have proven they offer nothing remarkably innovative and so Dyson would never hire these innovative-inept.  What say you?


DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:
CarmineD wrote:
I gotta give you all credit...  you cons always stick together.  Carmine, can you explain how Severus and Venson log in at the exact same times and have done so for the past two years?  I understand you have no credibility and have nothing to loose, but I believe Venson is a vacuum clubber and needs the respect of his peers.  You two just could not shut up.  Amazing.
DIB

DIB,

Hoover has always been very good at carpet cleaning, which is Dyson's biggest deficiency.   Dyson may know how to design a vacuum that maintains suction, but it seems to have no clue how to design the agitation to get the dirt vibrated out of the rug.  In head to head tests, most Dyson uprights get whipped by a 4amp Oreck carpet sweeper.  Dyson engineers have very little experience with American style carpeting.  Carmine has pointed out the deficiencies due to the lack of height adjustment and the nozzle design.  Hoover engineers could teach Dyson about the balance between air flow, nozzle design, height adjustment and carpet agitation.    Hoover has also got experience with self-propulsion of vacuums.  So yes, I think Dyson could benefit from hiring Hoover engineers. 

 

DysonInventsBig wrote: