Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

• Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
• 200 watt motor
• 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
• £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

mole wrote:

Repeat after me.  Because they like it.  You should be aware that smart people buy and recommend what they like regardless of what others buy/suggest. I do not see how it could be any worse than using the hose on a Hoover or the hand held Oreck.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
DIB,

Alter ego? I don't thinks so. I have no time for that kind of nonsense. Rest assured that there's only one of me -- and be glad.

Anyway, there you go ranting and raving again which to me makes any argument you raise allegedly on Dyson's behalf all the more useless as far as I am concerned.

Forget price? Heck no! The price of these Dyson doo-dads, I repeat, far surpasses the price of a decent, lightweight canister vacuum (with better suction) that I ccould use to clean out the car and do a little work at home with too. As well, a $40.00 B&D rechargeable handheld will take you just as far AND you can have a great dinner out off the money saved.

As for cleaning ability, all ten minutes of it, I am sorry but over time you have not much conviced me that you know much about cleaning in general or that you have a good understanding as to how to go about it effectively. So, pardon me if I am not prone to taking your word.

If you want to help Dyson -- do them a favor and don't.

Venson

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB:

As usual you're WRONG!  Severus has a long storied history on all the vacuum forums going back years before dyson and you.  While Venson is relatively new to this Forum and here only for a few years.  You're right in one respect.  Both Severus and Venson are reasonable thinking/buying consumers of vacuums who didn't fall prey to the dyson party line, like some here did/do.  Severus goes back to the days of questioning dysons when TOM DUALCYCLONE MOTORHEAD GASKO was playing the part for dyson that you do here now: Poster child.  I suspect he'll still be here along with Venson when you and dyson are long gone. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

Keep up.  We're talking about hiring the best and brightest engineers from outside of dyson not inside.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
CarmineD wrote:
The “best and brightest?”  What brand and model [utility patented] vacuum could be mechanically proven to be the best and brightest? 

DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hi DIB:

We're talking engineers here.  People not products.  But I'll answer your question in light of handhelds since we are discussing handhelds here.  Since the Youtube video by James targets the $60 B&D pivot vac [the number one choice in handheld by Consumer Reports] as the leading competition, I would vote for it at the price over yours.  I also added that HOOVER/TTI platinum handheld with accucharge, and the energy award, for $120 excels over your infamous brand. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote: Carmine,

We’re talking engineers who’s job it is to make far superior [utility patent/s] products?  The two products you mention mechanically perform exactly alike or nearly alike... hardly requiring the best and brightest.  The best and brightest DO NOT seek jobs [and its accompanying low pay scale] with the innovative-inept.

DIB

So James and all his 475 engineers target the Black & Decker $60 handheld in its Youtube video, why?  And dyson costs $250-$270 plus $60 for attachments?

Because it's afforadble and rated the best by Consumer Reports in its class.  Best as in best and brightest.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
I love it!  You could not answer my question. 

So the cheaper (more affordable) a product is, this proves it was created by the best and brightest.  B&D's willingness to except low margins (because it sells commodities that can be copied freely by others, so they have to except this reality) this is the core reason the product is "affordable".  Nice try though.


DIB

DIB:

I didn't put the $60 B&D pivot vac on the wall for comparison to dyson's $250 handheld.  Sir James did.  He pointed to it as the leader, and so does Consumer Reports.

Carmine D.