Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

• Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
• 200 watt motor
• 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
• £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

Hello Aceone:

If you add the dyson set of attachments for $60 the prices become $279 and $329.  Cost of most full size vacuums with unlimited power and usage.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Carmine,

You and your "beat up on Dyson for any reason posters" here have beat to death the point[s] of pricing.  So now repeating yourself of pricing is a moot and boring point.  For those who can justify it’s pricing and/or an extra battery...  pricing is a non-issue is it not?

You found a way to make these vacuums “appear” more expensive than they are or will become in a real-world environment.  Sticking a “taller” number and shouldering these handhelds with all of Dyson’s available accessories must be old habits and tricks to your “up-sale ways” (stick it to the customer) from “back in the day” and in your shop.

These vacuums are world’s first and probably worlds best in there respected categories.  They are the F1’s of their class[es].  For those who can afford them and for those who can justify their prices, these F1’s of cordless handhelds will deliver much satisfaction and fanfare.  If more battery runtime is desired these owners simply go out and make the purchase and not think twice.

For many, but maybe not the masses these F1’s priced at $220 and $270 seem like a bargain.


DIB

DIB:

I wouldn't expect you to agree with the consumers who rate the dyson handhelds one star out of 5 [BEST BUY stores customers].  Or the management of the BEST BUY stores, especially the one on the east coast that sells the most dysons, and stated to me that the DC16 is the most returned of all vacuum products it sells.  First in its class all right.  If first is last.

Carmine D. 

DysonInventsBig wrote:

DIB

So how do you make the price appear to be more....$270 is $270.....priced as marked - the many you refer to are the ones dyson is $banking$ on- the niche market of collectors...like yourself , its the masses that see you can get more for less.....its the masses that count...not the dyson few ..in the real world. .......' worlds best ' - seriously.....time to beam yourself back to reality DIB . Dyson has beat /set himself up for what he gets...and when credit is due it is given...its in the shop where the costomer realizes that he/she has been burnt by dyson....the demos sell themselves....they see/realize first hand that you can get alot better for alot less....and for those where price is of no issue....have the cleaning done for them....and its those that do the cleaning that come to the shop for a vacuum....not a dyson.

turtle1

Hello 'turtle1'

If I recall correctly a poster here, perhaps you, mentioned that at least one of the big box retailers is selling the DC16 refurbs for $75/$80.  Refurbs and their prices are set by dyson.  So refurb prices tend to be higher than they are for dyson DC16 resales industry wide.  Haven't heard of the DC30/31 hitting the USA markets yet.  I suspect when they do, even the refurb prices of the DC16 will have to come down.  So MSRP of $149-$199 for resale by dyson at $80 now and soon to be lower.  First in its class?  A class of losers.

Carmine D.

The hand held wonder vac, even dyson cant  justify the price,its absurd , I could not stare my customers in the face and give the price with out breaking into laughfter,This gizmo will used as a T item for free with any dyson upright.

I mean really D.I.B phase yourself back into reality and OUT OF THE TWILITE ZONE. Even you cant believe what your saying, well maybe you can.

Regards

MOLE

CarmineD wrote:

HI CARMINE

Yup..was me - saw them at biglots for around $80.....still overpriced.  $40 is soso ....25 is good and about right.  But even then and with 2 batteries i say no cord no power. Wonder if well see any of the dyson canisters at big lots ?..to be honest ive never seen one come in for a repair....just a full service clean-up/out / tune-up.

turtle1

Hi 'turtle1'

The problem with dyson refurbs sold by dyson/retailers is the short warranty period: 6 months.  Since the refurb prices are set by dyson, dyson consumers shopping refurbs are better served buying from an authorized dyson dealer and/or indy.  Why?  Dyson dealers up the warranty by providing their own extended warranty after the 6 month dyson period.  Oftentimes 5-10 years [the latter I presume is because these refurbs at the prices are hard to sell because used and rebuilt dysons are so prevalent at alot lower prices].  Indies with no ties to dyson can cut the prices down on dyson resales below the dyson refurb prices and up the warranty.   If these dyson resales are unclaimed repairs, indies will sell just for the repair cost plus a slight premium for the 6 month warranty.  Indies sell DC07, 14 and 15 models for $130-$170, substantially less than the dyson refurbs, and with the equivalent 6 month warranty.  Win win for the customers inclined to buy a dyson bagless.  

Carmine D. 

CarmineD wrote:

HI CARMINE

No chance finding a dyson dealer around here....period.   Usually if someone wants a dyson around here they go to Wally ''or the local pawn shops....dirt cheap prices and plenty of used-stock......yard sale had 3 by the road on saturday.....make offer. when i got off work.....still by the road. -i see some shops are a little slow..but still refuse dyson repair work....wont touch. but hey its  freedom of choice.... great to be a indie/owner.

turtle1

retardturtle1 wrote:

Doesn't bode well for dyson for the long haul.  I know several indies who tell customers with dysons in and out of warranty to send them back to dyson.  They don't like the product, the company, or its founder.  Freedom of choice is the indies right.  Dyson needs the indies more than the indies need dyson. 

Carmine D.