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M00seUK


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Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Original Message   Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am
In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

  • Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
  • 200 watt motor
  • 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
  • £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

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retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #251   Aug 14, 2009 4:50 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Severus:

I agree.  During start up and shut down bagless cyclones have fine dust/dirt lodging in the openings w/o passing into the dirt bin.  Especially if users start right into cleanup after startup.  Tho, I have not seen the warnings, it would behoove cyclonic bagless brand makers to advise users to allow a brief run time after start up and before cleanup begins.  Conversely the same is true with shut down.  Allow a brief run time to get all the dust and dirt through the cyclones before shut down.

Carmine D.


All this run time before and after use......on a handvac that is already on a serious time limit....no time to clean up....now thats dyson science ...applied.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #252   Aug 14, 2009 5:25 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
All this run time before and after use......on a handvac that is already on a serious time limit....no time to clean up....now thats dyson science ...applied.


Hello 'turtle1'

More like dyson science misapplied.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #253   Aug 14, 2009 8:07 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello 'turtle1'

More like dyson science misapplied.

Carmine D.


HI CARMINE

Overpriced.....very limited use at best.  a $25-40 handvac for $200...priced for the dyson elite/followers ...yup'' one born every minute '  And james is  $ banking $ on them....

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #254   Aug 15, 2009 6:46 am
Severus wrote:
Son of a gun.  What a coincidence, I do too.  I picked them up at yardsales last weekend for $5 each. 



Hello Severus:

The Dirt Devil handcleaners I see at yard/garage sales are usually priced $15-$20 and sometimes more.  I suspect the battery packs in those dyson handhelds you picked up are shot.  Replacement batteries are $50 plus. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #255   Aug 15, 2009 6:49 am
retardturtle1 wrote:
HI CARMINE

Overpriced.....very limited use at best.  a $25-40 handvac for $200...priced for the dyson elite/followers ...yup'' one born every minute '  And james is  $ banking $ on them....


Hello 'turtle1'

Dyson has a cult-like following ref: DIB.  Misguided for the most part.  Can't separate the fantasy in their minds from the reality of the real world.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #256   Aug 15, 2009 11:12 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello 'turtle1'

Dyson has a cult-like following ref: DIB.  Misguided for the most part.  Can't separate the fantasy in their minds from the reality of the real world.

Carmine D.


More like a nightmare to the lying of Dyson, the bad-mouthing of Dyson "bottom feeder" vacuum dealer independents, and some these "bottom feeders" are indeed Dyson dealers (an old game of bait and switch).  These same bottom feeders have groupies (the so-called enthusiast) - they don't like me either.


DIB

Note:  I'm only referencing the "bottom feeders" and not the upright and respectable.


DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #257   Aug 15, 2009 11:23 am
retardturtle1 wrote:
HI CARMINE

Overpriced.....very limited use at best.  a $25-40 handvac for $200...priced for the dyson elite/followers ...yup'' one born every minute '  And james is  $ banking $ on them....


Retardturtle,

Can you demonstrate your "limited use at best" claim?  How about starting with Dyson advertised claims..  1) strong suction (maybe strongest in its class) and 2) no suction strength loss (no clogging for many months).


DIB
This message was modified Aug 15, 2009 by DysonInventsBig



CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #258   Aug 15, 2009 1:57 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:


DIB

Note:  I'm only referencing the "bottom feeders" and not the upright and respectable.



Thanks DIB for distinguishing the moral and ethical indies who post here from the rift raft dealers that dyson franchises to repair its products. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #259   Aug 15, 2009 2:05 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Retardturtle,

Can you demonstrate your "limited use at best" claim?  How about starting with Dyson advertised claims..  1) strong suction (maybe strongest in its class) and 2) no suction strength loss (no clogging for many months).


DIB


To start with DIB: 5 minutes on a 3-5 hour charge gives it limited usage in home, garage and car.  Are you not reading the posts here except your own.  You need 3-5 DC16 handhelds for any routine clean up job around the house and garage. 

Similarly if you own/use only one DC16, you best have a back up like a Black &Decker  and/or Dirt Devil to finish the job.  Come on DIB try and keep up here.  You ask the same silly nonsense over and over again. 

Severus is right about you.  Sir James must really be hardup to keep you on here as dyson's number one advocate.  The more you post the bigger dyson falls into a sink hole.  Take a cue from HS.  Clam it.  You lost the battle and the war here on dyson's DC16.  It's a collectable at best and an overpriced one to boot.  Just like the dyson's DC11.  Both were DOA. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Aug 15, 2009 by CarmineD
retardturtle1


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #260   Aug 15, 2009 6:52 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Retardturtle,

Can you demonstrate your "limited use at best" claim?  How about starting with Dyson advertised claims..  1) strong suction (maybe strongest in its class) and 2) no suction strength loss (no clogging for many months).


DIB


HI DIB

Id be more than happy to explain.......as i said.' reguardless of how great it does......it cant and wont do it for more than 5 -6 minutes tops at full power..if that.

not long enough to do more than a spilled ashtray on floor and sofa.....after that its nap time.....what if you make another mess between charge cycles?

6 min just isnt practical or useful enough to warrent the price tag.  The ddm is a great motor...awsome no doubt from all ive read and seen...but a poor choice

in a 6 min hand vac...now if it had a cord it would be a real threat....but not at the current price ....with a full sized fan in an upright i feel it will be a very powerful unit...

but overpriced , my opinion only....all in all ...run time and price will be the death of this one...no matter what class its in.

No plug no power....no matter who makes it....ill take the xtra time to plug up....better to have too much pwr/time than not enough.

turtle1

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