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M00seUK


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Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Original Message   Jun 25, 2009 10:06 am
In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

  • Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
  • 200 watt motor
  • 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
  • £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

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HARDSELL


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #160   Aug 8, 2009 10:04 am
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:</p><p>Let me repeat this for you again v-e-r-y   s-l-o-w-l-y  so you can get it once and for all.  This is the second time in the last few days I posted this and probably have done so a dozen times but as usual you just don't get it.  </p><p>The appliance manager at the BEST BUY store that sells more dysons on the east coast than any other retailer told me in front of the store manager that dyson's DC16 was the quickest and most returned vacuum product its ever sold except for the DC11.  BEST BUY stores and its customers have made up their mind already about your product.  It gets the worse rating of all the hand helds sold at BEST BUY stores.  BTW, the Black &amp; Decker pivot vacuum, by James/dyson's own admission is the product that the DC30/31 are chasing, gets 5 stars. </p><p>Carmine D.</p><div id="searchstate"><font color="#333399">Best Buy</font> &gt; <font color="#333399">Home &amp; Appliances</font> &gt; <font color="#333399">Vacuums &amp; Floor Care</font> &gt; <font color="#333399">Handheld &amp; Stick Vacuums</font> &gt; <strong>Product Info</strong> </div><!-- E:07G --><div id="productpreview"><!-- the "upper half" of the page --><div id="imagepreview"><!-- left hand side of the "postcard" --><img height="123" alt="8768238 Front Large" src="http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/8768/8768238_sb.jpg" width="220" align="top" border="0"/><BR><div id="morebuttons"><ul><li><img id="viewmorephotos" alt="View More Photos" src="http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/en_US/images/global/buttons/btn_viewmore.gif" border="0"/><font color="#333399"> </font><!--Code snippet for displaying the DND_product_demo- start--><!--Code snippet for displaying the DND_product_demo - end--></li></ul></div><div class="clear"><font color="#333399"></font></div><div id="productlogo"><font color="#333399"></font></div><div id="swatches"><font color="#333399"><!-- B:0YE --><!-- E:0YE --></font></div><!-- pt10 --></div><div id="productsummary"><!-- right hand side of the "postcard"--><div class="pdpcurveborder"><font color="#333399"><!-- --></font></div><div class="pdpsummarybox"><!-- B:0YA --><h1>Dyson - Root 6 Animal Bagless Cordless Hand Vac - Iron/Bronze </h1><div id="detailband"><strong>Model:</strong> 00133 <span class="sep"><font color="#cccccc">|</font></span> <strong>SKU:</strong> 8768238 <BR><BR><span id="BVCustomRatingsSummary"><div id="reviewband"><strong>Customer Reviews: </strong><img alt="2.4 out of 5 stars" src="http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/global/misc/ratings_star_2_4.gif"/><span id="reviewscore"><strong> 2.4</strong></span><span id="reviewnum"> <font color="#003399">Read reviews (9)</font></span></div></span></div><!-- E:0YA --><div class="pdphr"><hr/></div></div></div></div>

The DC16 does score higher on Amazon than the DD you picture.
DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #161   Aug 8, 2009 11:03 am
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

Let me repeat this for you again v-e-r-y   s-l-o-w-l-y  so you can get it once and for all.  This is the second time in the last few days I posted this and probably have done so a dozen times but as usual you just don't get it. 

The appliance manager at the BEST BUY store that sells more dysons on the east coast than any other retailer told me in front of the store manager that dyson's DC16 was the quickest and most returned vacuum product its ever sold except for the DC11.  BEST BUY stores and its customers have made up their mind already about your product.  It gets the worse rating of all the hand helds sold at BEST BUY stores.  BTW, the Black & Decker pivot vacuum, by James/dyson's own admission is the product that the DC30/31 are chasing, gets 5 stars.

Carmine D.

Dyson - Root 6 Animal Bagless Cordless Hand Vac - Iron/Bronze

Model: 00133 | SKU: 8768238

Customer Reviews: 2.4 out of 5 stars 2.4 Read reviews (9)


Carmine,

Type/talk slow as you want, it makes no difference to me.

What do you find most difficult about my question and why do you avoid it? - It’s a fair [consumer] question.

I’ll repeat the question...  Using the DD illustration, what would consumers find faster and easier at cleaning this door rail?
1)  Plugging the DD into an outlet and converting to fit a nozzle and if the rail is longer then it's requires two hands to get the job done OR...
2)  Snapping a nozzle into a DC16 and pulling the trigger and using only one hand regardless of the job requirements?


DIB
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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #162   Aug 8, 2009 2:04 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
The DC16 does score higher on Amazon than the DD you picture.


HS:

True but get real.  Dyson's handheld for $200 [and now even more] price tag is the highest price for a handheld in the vacuum industry.  It merits a  3.5 star rating out of a possible 5.  That's mediocre and laughable.  Highest price should command highest rating.  The DD Ultra on the other hand for $29.95 scores 2.5 stars.  At least DD gives buyers/users theri money's worth for the purchase.  This is what matters to consumers.  They want their money's worth out of their vacuum purchases.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #163   Aug 8, 2009 2:13 pm
Let's see DIB:  $200-$300?  $30?  That's a hard question for you to answer?  Pretty easy!  Most, if not all except you, know the answer without having to ask the question.  For most if not all, 10 for $30 each with a rating of 2.5 beats 1 for $300 with a rating of 3.5.  Except for the people that P.T Barnum talks about who are born and every 6 minutes.  And they are waiting in the line for their signs, so dyson can target them with its new products.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #164   Aug 8, 2009 2:22 pm
DIB, HS:

The Black & Decker pivot vacuum for $50 gets 5 stars from BEST BUY and 4.5 from Amazon.  This is the make and model that James/dyson targets according to the YouTube video on this thread.  $50 with 4.5 stars?  Versus $200-$300 for 3 stars?  Another tough question for handheld buyers deciding which brand to buy?  Yes, if the buyer is standing in the line waiting for his/her sign from P.T Barnum.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #165   Aug 8, 2009 2:31 pm
HS, DIB:

Do me a huge favor.  There are upwards of 2 dozen hand helds on the market today.  Most, if not all, rate and receive better reviews than your fave brand's models.  And all considerably less expensive than dyson by hundreds of percents in price.  Let's take each one by one and detail them here by price and stars.  It will make a mockery out dyson's most expensive handheld on the market compared to all the others.  Please.

Carmine D. 

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #166   Aug 8, 2009 7:40 pm
A more pervasive study of consumer reviews for the Dirt Devil Ultra disclose better results:

Featured StoresStore RatingTotal Price
AmazonAmazon rated 3.50 (1638 reviews)1638 store reviews$29.99
CircuitCity.comCircuitCity.com rated 3.50 (793 reviews)793 store reviews$35.99
TigerDirect.comTigerDirect.com rated 4.50 (5259 reviews)5259 store reviews$35.99

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #167   Aug 8, 2009 7:49 pm
In contrast dyson DC16 for $149 doesn't fare much better than the DD Ultra despite the $100 more.
 
 
Featured StoresStore RatingTotal Price
Abt Electronics & ApplianAbt Electronics & Applian rated 4.50 (538 reviews)538 store reviews$149.99
AmazonAmazon rated 3.50 (1638 reviews)1638 store reviews$149.00
J&R Music and Computer WorldJ&R Music and Computer World rated 4.50 (3998 reviews)3998 store reviews$149.99

Same question dyson twins:  $149 versus $29?  4 stars versus 3.75 stars.  Give me your answer twins and I'll give you your signs.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #168   Aug 8, 2009 8:18 pm
m08230x ultra hand vac   

Tell me DIB, with your twin's assistance if you need it:  What would hand cleaner users prefer for this clean up job:  The DD for $30 or your fave for $149 plus.  Then add to the flower pot fall on the rug a clean up of the sliding glass door track too.  Yours would be out of a job.  DD would still be up for these and more.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
Reply #169   Aug 8, 2009 8:29 pm
Now DIB let's really get down and dirty.  Suppose your 5 year old daughter drops the flower pot down 13 carpeted steps and she wants to clean it up by her lonesome.  What product would be the best for her to use?

Carmine D.

PS:  Real life situation.  My grand daughter did this while her mother was washing the clothes.  She quickly went and got the DD hand cleaner to do the job.  The DD was sitting in the closet next to an unused dyson DC07 pink.  My grand daughter cleaned up the mess before her mother had time to see it.  Her mother found her putting the hand cleaner away.

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