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CarmineD
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Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum
Original Message Jun 4, 2009 1:02 pm |
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New lightweight with OBT in town for $250 with free bags for life and zero cost maintenance warranty for life. Anything goes wrong, a new vacuun is shipped to you. http://www.garryvac.com/ Taking a page from ORECK on the giveaways: Free Steam Mop to keep if not satisfied with purchase and returned. https://www.garryvacuum.com/order_form.html?country=CA Comments? Carmine D.
This message was modified Jun 4, 2009 by CarmineD
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum
Reply #27 Jun 14, 2009 8:56 am |
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Hello Venson:
I excerpted this comment from your post. Surprisingly none of the lightweights, even ORECK, offer the tools on board like Garry. I opined due to the small motor these direct suction fan first models utilize. The small motors don't deliver enough umph for tool suction cleaning. But, I have to verify that by actual usage with the Garry. ORECK should have a G-vac in their stores to show propective buyers who ask about the G-vac the differences. Perhaps the ORECK stores will. Have to wait and see.
Carmine D.
Howdy Carmine, My gut feeling is that Oreck needn't bother . . . I am well aware of the Garry's tools but decided not even to bother pursuing what I see as so very much a non-issue in this case. My opinion is basically the same as yours -- the tools are doo-dads of little value. Thus, no miracle expected -- no miracle found. Oreck probably stands all that much the wiser for not bothering to add a tool set to its uprights. The company has its fans as is so why muck up a thus far perfectly good relationship with happy campers? A few days back, I had to make a run into town to Lincoln Center. I decided to get off one station past my stop so I might learn if Oreck still had its "Clean Home Center" at 2003 Broadway. To my surprise the store is still there, great big window and all, and there was a customer or two inside. The uprights and the little portable schmutz collector were of course on hand but there was also a heater of some sort and the air cleaner on display. Broadway is pretty expensive and prized real estate even these days and by that at least I am impressed. However nothing much else drew my attention. Online Oreck has been busy nonetheless. The company seems to have adopted a small bagless (pleated filter) canister vac formerly under the McColloch brand and renamed it the Oreck XL Little Hero Canister Vacuum Cleaner. The price is about a $170.00. This is now the least-priced small can vac on the Oreck roster. The little "Iron Man" portable, formerly sold by Sears way, way back, lists at $299.00. No comment on my part here except to say, it's nice work if you can get it. http://www.oreck.com/canister-vacuum-cleaners/little-hero.cfm Best, Venson
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum
Reply #28 Jun 14, 2009 12:06 pm |
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Howdy Carmine,
My gut feeling is that Oreck needn't bother . . .
I am well aware of the Garry's tools but decided not even to bother pursuing what I see as so very much a non-issue in this case. My opinion is basically the same as yours -- the tools are doo-dads of little value. Thus, no miracle expected -- no miracle found. Oreck probably stands all that much the wiser for not bothering to add a tool set to its uprights. The company has its fans as is so why muck up a thus far perfectly good relationship with happy campers?
A few days back, I had to make a run into town to Lincoln Center. I decided to get off one station past my stop so I might learn if Oreck still had its "Clean Home Center" at 2003 Broadway. To my surprise the store is still there, great big window and all, and there was a customer or two inside. The uprights and the little portable schmutz collector were of course on hand but there was also a heater of some sort and the air cleaner on display. Broadway is pretty expensive and prized real estate even these days and by that at least I am impressed. However nothing much else drew my attention.
Online Oreck has been busy nonetheless. The company seems to have adopted a small bagless (pleated filter) canister vac formerly under the McColloch brand and renamed it the Oreck XL Little Hero Canister Vacuum Cleaner. The price is about a $170.00. This is now the least-priced small can vac on the Oreck roster. The little "Iron Man" portable, formerly sold by Sears way, way back, lists at $299.00. No comment on my part here except to say, it's nice work if you can get it.
http://www.oreck.com/canister-vacuum-cleaners/little-hero.cfm
Best,
Venson hi venson
it seems with the g-vac xposed ...the only real threat i see to oreck is the riccar rsl series....and ive yet to see a direct air motor with tool suction worth a flip....that bagless can looks one of those royals that was sent to the shop for free.....we had it abt 2 weeks for around the shop use then..caput!...but i never really thought oreck would waste time on a bagless..or stand by one ...just seems outside the box for a company that makes really good vacuums...bagged vacuums.
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum
Reply #29 Jun 14, 2009 2:08 pm |
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hi venson</p><p>it seems with the g-vac xposed ...the only real threat i see to oreck is the riccar rsl series....and ive yet to see a direct air motor with tool suction worth a flip....that bagless can looks one of those royals that was sent to the shop for free.....we had it abt 2 weeks for around the shop use then..caput!...but i never really thought oreck would waste time on a bagless..or stand by one ...just seems outside the box for a company that makes really good vacuums...bagged vacuums.
Hi retardturtle1, I do not see the Garry vac as being "exposed" but simply see it for what it is -- a cheap deal. You're buying into a machine supposedly as good as the expensive brand that many people feel is "it". You're also buying into a lot of promises regarding repair and endless disposable bag supply. This is not an uncommon possibility as American enterprise, like air, abhors a vacuum. If it can't hook you into buying by way of inflated price and/or snob appeal it's more than willing and adept at doing an about face to feign empathy for the shopper with a challenged budget. Why do you think "Deluxe," "Standard" and "Economy" models have been made available for just about every device sold here all these years? We are probably one of the few countries in the world where even the poorest among us can easily anticipate the purchase of a color TV. Why? 'Cause there's always a guy around to make sure their dough as does not get passed by. Albeit not as quickly, the nickels and dimes add up the same as folding money does. As for Oreck, it is not the first company to acquire outsourced models to beef up its line. However, what is curious to me is how short the public memory is. The Oreck "Hero Vac" could be had for around 60 bucks a couple of years back under other names. What's to be discovered here is whether the same machine will sell any better with a new name and a higher price. As mentioned prior by good friend MOLE, the general public is not worried over cyclones and all that stuff. They just want to feel assured that the vac they buy will operate well and without problem. Nonetheless, "bagless" does ring a bell because it implies there's less or maybe no money to be spent on maintenance. The "Hero Vac" -- somebody correct me if I'm wrong -- will be Oreck's first venture regarding bagless product. I assume the idea is to see whether it flies before they venture ahead. Here's a link to a similar model out of China: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/217516828/J302_Vacuum_Cleaner/showimage.html Venson
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum
Reply #30 Jun 14, 2009 4:26 pm |
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Hi retardturtle1,
I do not see the Garry vac as being "exposed" but simply see it for what it is -- a cheap deal. You're buying into a machine supposedly as good as the expensive brand that many people feel is "it". You're also buying into a lot of promises regarding repair and endless disposable bag supply.
This is not an uncommon possibility as American enterprise, like air, abhors a vacuum. If it can't hook you into buying by way of inflated price and/or snob appeal it's more than willing and adept at doing an about face to feign empathy for the shopper with a challenged budget. Why do you think "Deluxe," "Standard" and "Economy" models have been made available for just about every device sold here all these years?
We are probably one of the few countries in the world where even the poorest among us can easily anticipate the purchase of a color TV. Why? 'Cause there's always a guy around to make sure their dough as does not get passed by. Albeit not as quickly, the nickels and dimes add up the same as folding money does.
As for Oreck, it is not the first company to acquire outsourced models to beef up its line. However, what is curious to me is how short the public memory is. The Oreck "Hero Vac" could be had for around 60 bucks a couple of years back under other names. What's to be discovered here is whether the same machine will sell any better with a new name and a higher price.
As mentioned prior by good friend MOLE, the general public is not worried over cyclones and all that stuff. They just want to feel assured that the vac they buy will operate well and without problem. Nonetheless, "bagless" does ring a bell because it implies there's less or maybe no money to be spent on maintenance. The "Hero Vac" -- somebody correct me if I'm wrong -- will be Oreck's first venture regarding bagless product. I assume the idea is to see whether it flies before they venture ahead. Here's a link to a similar model out of China:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/217516828/J302_Vacuum_Cleaner/showimage.html
Venson HI VENSON i always saw ORECK as a easy to work on simple to use low maint very durable type of vacuum ...im aware they have outsourced some vacs...not sure witch ones....as we dont get them in often for repairs...just a full service clean up most of the time...but here lately ive seen quite a few in for lock-ups--- bearing failure..heat? been curious tho. ..and for ORECK to go into bagless area with the higher maint,,far less reliable problematic system ....instead of a bagless can -why not lower the price of your already awsome line-up and put the ORECK in reach of those that couldnt normally afford a new one and increase sales in that once unreachable[bad credit-cash and carry loyal to thier product] market....beefing up the lower end..so to speak. and its a very large market.....they know the ORECK name and quality...and want it ....just out of reach tho.
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Venson
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Re: Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum
Reply #31 Jun 14, 2009 4:50 pm |
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HI VENSON</p><p>i always saw ORECK as a easy to work on simple to use low maint very durable type of vacuum ...im aware they have outsourced some vacs...not sure witch ones.... Hi retardturtle1, The large and mid-size Dutch-Tech" bagged canisters which use Wessel Werks PNs are from Philips, a European manufacturer that made household vacuums for quite some time and then left off. The "Iron Man" -- origin unknown to me -- is a vacuum that Sears sold as far back as the late 1960s. I can't quote the exact time but it disappeared for a time and then reappeared under the Oreck name. By the way, the "Steam-It" can now be found at the Oreck website -- http://www.oreck.com Venson
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum
Reply #32 Jun 15, 2009 6:54 am |
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By the way, the "Steam-It" can now be found at the Oreck website -- http://www.oreck.com
Venson
Thanks Venson for the post. Here's the info.
Steam-It™ the all-purpose steamwandIt's never been so easy to get Oreck Clean.The New Oreck Steam-It uses pressurized, "dry" steam to naturally disinfect and melt away dirt & grime. Unlike many conventional steam mops, the Oreck Steam-It has a unique, pressurized vapor chamber making it easy to clean above the floor without spilling. It’s the easy, eco-friendly way to clean without the use of toxic chemicals or detergents. Features: - Pressurized super-dry steam heats in under 30 seconds. And dry steam means no damp mess!
- Works upside-down without spillage for above the floor cleaning.
- Lightweight with fingertip controls and 16-ft. cord make it incredibly easy to use.
- Deep cleans without chemicals- It attacks many germs and bacteria, using ordinary tap water.
- Can be used on most flooring surfaces including marble, ceramic, stone, vinyl, laminate, linoleum and sealed hardwood floors.
- Reusable, machine washable microfiber pads means there are no expensive replacement pads to buy.
- 1-year warranty.
With six attachments, you’re sure to cover nearly every inch of your home. Clean Drapes from top to bottom and reach crown moldings and ceiling fans. Target tough upholstery stains and freshen pillows and mattresses. Perfect for cleaning carpets, rugs and almost on any hard floor surface. Clean Kitchen and bathroom counters, sinks and appliances. Remove grout stains, and soap scum from tough-to-clean tile. Clean windows with no spots or streaks. Just add water, turn the Steam-It on, and it heats up in 30 seconds – creating a high-temperature, low-moisture dry steam that quickly removes dirt and rejuvenates flattened carpet, deep cleans virtually any hard floor surface, and reduces bacteria and germs. It also cleans windows spot-free, naturally disinfects kitchen and bath surfaces, tile and grout, removes tough stains from furniture and car upholstery, and even freshens pillows and mattresses. And surfaces are dry within minutes! Includes 2 washable microfiber towels, a bonnet, universal cleaning clips and 6 attachments. The Steam-It is quiet and portable, reaches anywhere (even ceiling fans, cabinets and light fixtures), and can even be turned upside down without spillage. There are no expensive replacement cleaning pads to buy, either, because the Steam-It comes with two washable microfiber towels and a bonnet. And only the Steam-It has universal cleaning clips that let you use your own household towels to save money. It comes with a 6-piece attachment kit, a 1-year warranty, and is tough enough for everyday use. The New Oreck Steam-It: a safe, easy, all-natural, and cost-effective way to clean your home.
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum
Reply #34 Jun 22, 2009 4:47 pm |
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The Steam It has not been received at my local ORECK store, making it several weeks overdue. I'm on the list for a call as soon as it is available in the store. BTW, the ORECK staff were totally unaware of the Garry Vac. Caught them by surprise. THese are person that have been in the vacuum business for almost 2 decades. A scope of the web site had them amused. Both saying that the site mirrored ORECK's own web site. The store I was busy while I was there. ORECK'S are selling and being brought in for repair and parts. At least in this ORECK store. Carmine D. HI CARMINE
guess they got vacuums to make..to keep up with demand. [no excess inventory] .no time to watch tv...but im glad to hear that some shops are doing good...i know alot that are not. great ...now perhaps ORECK will shed some light on GERRY...do a little research and shed some light.....great work.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum
Reply #35 Jun 22, 2009 8:05 pm |
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HI CARMINE
guess they got vacuums to make..to keep up with demand. [no excess inventory] .no time to watch tv...but im glad to hear that some shops are doing good...i know alot that are not. great ...now perhaps ORECK will shed some light on GERRY...do a little research and shed some light.....great work.
You're welcome. I enjoy the exchange of information with other professionals in the industry even if I'm officially retired. The one ORECK staffer was a master repairman. He had worked for Tacony for 17 years before his employment with ORECK. Interesting to get his perspective on both brands simultaneously. And then his perspective on the garry vacuum too. He made the same observation I made here. These lightweights uprights, ORECK, RICCAR/SIMPLICITY, HOOVER, have small motors. It would be highly unusual for them to offer good tool suction.
The other ORECK-er is a store manager for ORECK and very knowledgeable in her own right. She initially gave me the run down on the ORECK halo in a very low key and mild manner. No sales hype. I suspect when I return, they will both have some more info on the garry vacuum to share. Just a hunch. Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Garry Ultra Light Upright Vacuum
Reply #36 Jun 22, 2009 8:35 pm |
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You're welcome. I enjoy the exchange of information with other professionals in the industry even if I'm officially retired. The one ORECK staffer was a master repairman. He had worked for Tacony for 17 years before his employment with ORECK. Interesting to get his perspective on both brands simultaneously. And then his perspective on the garry vacuum too. He made the same observation I made here. These lightweights uprights, ORECK, RICCAR/SIMPLICITY, HOOVER, have small motors. It would be highly unusual for them to offer good tool suction. The other ORECK-er is a store manager for ORECK and very knowledgeable in her own right. She initially gave me the run down on the ORECK halo in a very low key and mild manner. No sales hype. I suspect when I return, they will both have some more info on the garry vacuum to share. Just a hunch. Carmine D. hi carmine
RETIRED.....YES. but the knowledge and expierence that you have is priceless....and a gift. to those of us who want to know some of what you and the other members have to offer....and if this helps me do my job better or sell a little better [and it has] then this forum and its members i give credit to....and yes , the dyson lovers also. i thank you ,, but to move on. so mr. carmine im sure said people had something to say about said lightweights, perhaps a little inside info or performance comparisons between the above....i mean his in depth perspective is very interesting im sure. [besides tool air-flow] ...what the oreck lady had to say...do tell please you cant leave your post as is....that would be a crime.....ps. i also accept p.mesgs on the subject.
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