Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Did anyone notice that the DC11 is back on some of the Dyson websites... Here's one that I thought was gone forever...

HARDSELL wrote:

I can't recall saying that a good brush was vital.  I would still take straight suction and NO brush as opposed to a great brush and NO suction.  The latter is like the old bissell sweepers or an Oreck.

All carpets do not require the same type brush.

HS:

I would take both on rugs over one or the other exclusively.  Fortunately in today's vacuum market both are offered by all brands and most models.

Carmine D.

Venson wrote:

Hi Venson:

The advantage of the fan first uprights of years gone by and ORECK and a few others still today. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Such words of wisdom.  I am impressed----------by your twisting.

HARDSELL wrote:
Airwatts, cfm x waterlift divide by 8,5

My F,A,S,T, intake throttle body has 1100 airwatts, it doesnt clean very well though.

H.S. all the numbers can be manipulated,all depends how they want to market the product,

In the central vacuum industry any thing over 400 airwatts is considered powerful ,its just a # game............


regards

MOLE

HARDSELL wrote:

What can I say?     HAPPY FATHER'S DAY.

Carmine D.

mole wrote:

Would it be legal to put one of those 6500 rpm Oreck motors in the exhaust to help the flow?

THanks for saying what I was trying to get others to say.  Manipulation exists in all industry.  The best test is hand on experience.  Forget the marketing hype.

mole wrote:

when you use  that formula , say on a 750 w lamb motor with 112cfm and 63 in w/l it comes to abt 830 aw....yet there chart says 190aw...what gives

retardturtle1 wrote:

Hi turtle,your getting very quizy about the #, the formula the rest of the story goes like this,cfm x W/L divide  by 8.5 take that # and divide that by the fan case opening most are 2'', now your at the right #,still means nothing in real life applications,

Do you really think a Z06 corvette puts 505 h.p. to the ground?Its just a  engine dyno number thats never achived in real life. The lamb/ametec electric motors are rated the same way, strip the fans off the motor throw a 240 volt charge into it and blow it up,but the motor made 4 hp, do you see the game yet?

Do you realize that the most overlooked piece on the vacuum are the attachments............

regards

MOLE

HARDSELL wrote:

H.S. you know something now i think you could be on to something here,An sts turbo set up looks a lot like an oreck fan, how do you think it would handle the methonal shot?. I'm still trying to tune in my 2 stage nitrous system into my dyson dc14,

My ls1 motor could be used as a starter motor for your HEMI.

mole wrote:

thanks mole

just like to know how they come up with the numbers they do...where xactly they came from.. why  something was designed the way it was and how if possible can it be improved on.....a what if.....thing. im a way long way from what you guys know and have seen....and admire and respect that.  i learn something everyday on here...i have a question i ask....from those who know...[id rather not ASSUME]  ..but ive always believed that a true reading is at the brushroll chamber. and am aware of the loss of engine power thru the driveline....i do love cars..and working on them, as i do all my own maint. on my  TRAILBLAZER SS......a tru beast....altho not a Z06..HEMI....she can hold her own.