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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #24 Jun 17, 2009 5:01 pm |
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Think what you like Carmine. I already told you how I won the new DC07 from an Oreck salesman. To my knowledge he has never been on this forum. Likely too embarrassed. I sold the DC07 because I wanted to try something different. Warranty was not a factor. I did have a three year warranty FYI. Your story adds more credit to my accusations of you making up fiction as you post here.Yes, I bought a Royal and a Kirby. Good vacuums but not as good as the DC07. No doubt you gift yours since they have no used value.
HARDSELL: Dysons don't come with a 3 year warranty? It's 2 and/or 5 years FYI. What did Shakespeare say? What a web this mortal doth weave when deception he decides to conceive.
Carmine D. $19 for a warranty at Best Buy. No deception. Just facts.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #25 Jun 17, 2009 6:08 pm |
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$19 for a warranty at Best Buy. No deception. Just facts.
HS:
Sure thing! The ORECK store employee, after supposedly losing a bet to you on a matchoff of the ORECK and dyson IN AN ORECK STORE, springs for an additional year warranty on the dyson! Right! You're wearing the same rose colored dyson glasses that your cohorts here wear to post their praise for failed dyson products pulled off the market for not selling. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #26 Jun 17, 2009 7:30 pm |
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$19 for a warranty at Best Buy. No deception. Just facts.
HS:
Sure thing! The ORECK store employee, after supposedly losing a bet to you on a matchoff of the ORECK and dyson IN AN ORECK STORE, springs for an additional year warranty on the dyson! Right! You're wearing the same rose colored dyson glasses that your cohorts here wear to post their praise for failed dyson products pulled off the market for not selling. Carmine D.
Are you implying that a matchoff in an Oreck store would favor the Oreck. I always knew they were using a stacked deck. That was my reason for using baking soda.
We can see through those rose colored glasses. You can't see through those blinders you wear. Otherwise you would know that Dyson slayed Hoover in spite of your BS.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #27 Jun 17, 2009 8:27 pm |
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Are you implying that a matchoff in an Oreck store would favor the Oreck. I always knew they were using a stacked deck. That was my reason for using baking soda.
We can see through those rose colored glasses. You can't see through those blinders you wear. Otherwise you would know that Dyson slayed Hoover in spite of your BS. No implication HS. Just giving you the same you give here. ORECK stores nationwide typically use several new dyson models including a DC07 in customers' tests with its own ORECK models for carpet cleaning. All types of dirt, litter, hair, thread, sand, kapoc, baking soda, candy, cereal and other such things routinely found in/on household rugs. ORECK uprights always win over dyson. Makes the ORECK sales for all those who ask about dyson.
Carmine D.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #28 Jun 17, 2009 8:33 pm |
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Sorry guys I MUST concur here. Its simply not enough to rely on statistics, believing ALL the hype that consumer reports do = after all Im sure some of you have vacuums that have been slated in the past and yet they give you sterling service. Granted, some statistics are worth relying on but they don't create a whole picture. <BR><BR>I'll give you an example; on here (and I can't remember whether it was a review or not) someone mentioned that the Sebo Felix gave poor carpet performance. Not in my home! If I go over the whole carpet with the Felix and then a bagless vacuum with no dirt in the bin, hardly any other dirt comes to the surface which the cyclonic system produces. This isn't a lab test but purely one that's done by me. <BR><BR>Similarly I got a surprise when I did the same testing with a claimed "best performance" Panasonic bagged upright and the bagless test- the cyclonic vac produced a lot more dirt after the Panasonic had gone over the same carpet.
Here's a good video with a Dyson in it!
http://fwd.five.tv/videos/jon-tests-vacuum-cleaners
Hello vacmanuk:
I went back into the Consumer Reports archives several years and can't find a ranking/rating for the SEBO Felix. However, I noted going back to 2005, that CR routinely rates the SEBO Automatic X4 as GOOD and EXCELLENT in carpet and floor cleaning. Tho a different SEBO model, quite similar in brush roll design and function, the CR results and yours are congruent. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #29 Jun 17, 2009 9:39 pm |
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Hello vacmanuk: I went back into the Consumer Reports archives several years and can't find a ranking/rating for the SEBO Felix. However, I noted going back to 2005, that CR routinely rates the SEBO Automatic X4 as GOOD and EXCELLENT in carpet and floor cleaning. Tho a different SEBO model, quite similar in brush roll design and function, the CR results and yours are congruent. Carmine D. How can they be congruent and different?
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #30 Jun 17, 2009 9:41 pm |
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Are you implying that a matchoff in an Oreck store would favor the Oreck. I always knew they were using a stacked deck. That was my reason for using baking soda. We can see through those rose colored glasses. You can't see through those blinders you wear. Otherwise you would know that Dyson slayed Hoover in spite of your BS. No implication HS. Just giving you the same you give here. ORECK stores nationwide typically use several new dyson models including a DC07 in customers' tests with its own ORECK models for carpet cleaning. All types of dirt, litter, hair, thread, sand, kapoc, baking soda, candy, cereal and other such things routinely found in/on household rugs. ORECK uprights always win over dyson. Makes the ORECK sales for all those who ask about dyson.
Carmine D. Oreck's don't always win. Same with the Kirby. The DC14 passed every trick the salesman tried.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #31 Jun 18, 2009 6:53 am |
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Dyson’s experimenting and turning these experiments into product have proven to be money makers. Even the Model-T of vacuum manufacturers, that is... Oreck, played around with a steerable upright, although only somewhat-steerable. DIB
DIB:
I was temporarily diverted by your dyson cohort. I didn't forget this analogy which you used and is worth more commentary. In light of GM and Chrysler's recent bankruptcy filings and billion $ bailouts by the Feds, note that Ford, as in Henry and the inventor of the Model T and assembly line production, is the only profitable American made car maker in the USA after 100 years. In fact the recent retro Mustang outsold HONDA's newest and latest hybrid "Insight" in May despite rising gas prices and the worse car sales in decades. Like me, if David ORECK and his family members and employees read your post, they would most probably say they are doing things right from a US manufacturing perspective. ORECK's icon lightweight uprights are still made in the USA. ORECK's 2008 sales results, while other vacuum makers' sales were plummeting, prove their business model is successful even in good times and bad. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson DC11 is Back!
Reply #32 Jun 18, 2009 7:01 am |
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Oreck's don't always win. Same with the Kirby. The DC14 passed every trick the salesman tried. HS, as usual you are wearing your dysoin-issued rose colored dyson glasses. DC07 and DC14 are kaput, discontinued, being sold at discount prices. They are getting bandied about, new and used, on sale by all dyson retailers. If winning is a function of longevity, as in the last vacuum still selling, ORECK beats your fave brand/model in that matchoff too.
Carmine D.
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