Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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I'm referring to Electrolux within the UK market, where Hoover-Candy (destinct from the TTI-owned US Hoover Company) has a full range of laundry and kitchen appliances, and Hoover, Dyson, Vax, Samsung and LG all offer multi-cyclonic cleaners. In this context, it is odd that Electrolux still rely on a pleated cartridge-filter.

Model2 wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong Model2, isn't Electrolux a large selling brand for kitchen appliances in the UK and European markets with a huge presence?  And has been for quite some time.  While Electrolux just launched recently here in the US for kitchen appliances through BEST BUY stores.

Carmine D.

Samsung is a small time player in the vacuum market.  Not its forte.  Samsung leads the world in large screen TV's.  Does LG have any vacuum products?

Carmine D. 

dyson and Vax don't have any kitchen and laundry appliances in the UK/Europe, do they Model2.  That is comparable to the likes of Electrolux?  Are you saying they do?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

I never said they did. What's your point? I'm not talking about what can be 'compared' to Electrolux, I'm talking about what Electrolux sell within the UK, and what Hoover sell in the UK, compared to what the respective brand-equivalents sell in the US.

Model2 wrote:
Hi Model2,

Electrolux AB, not a specialist in vacuums but a mass producer of large and small appliances, is at least making an effort in the bagless department with the new "Versatility" upright (link to user manual below)and the "Twin Clean" canister.

I haven't heard any report of the Versatility yet but the Twin Clean can has been out for a while. Lowest canister score being 57 and highest being 73, our Consumer Reports gave it an overal rating of 63. Consumer reviews were telling in that it is made apparent that very regular filter maintenance is necessary to keep this model up to optimum "out of the box" performance as time passes.

Just a guess on my part, Electrolux already has so many irons in the fire that it may not be overly worried about a state-of-the-art vacuum under its own brand. It also owns our Eureka brand and the bagless Eureka Boss 4D 5893 got rather nice scores in CR's last ratings.

Versatility Upright

http://smallappliances.electroluxusa.com/Files/79976_rev%201%20OG%20eng.pdf

Twin Clean Canister

http://smallappliances.electroluxusa.com/files/usa_english/0-999/77764_TwinClean_OG_r10.pdf

Best,

Venson

CarmineD wrote:

Small time player or not, they offer technology far superior to Electrolux - and also currently offer the quietest vacuum cleaner onsale in the UK! As for LG - visit their website! Has it never occurred for you to do any original research? I'm not going to spoonfeed you infomation, Carmine! You really stretch your credentials when you try and comment on the UK market, which clearly you're totally unfamiliar with, both in terms of the products on offer, and the UK buyer's perception of their standing!

Venson wrote:

Again, I'm talking within the context of the UK market, not the US market. Electrolux are still the 3rd biggest seller of vacuum cleaners, in unit sales, within the UK, regardless of what other products they offer.

What you say about the need for filter maintenence in the Twinclean demonstrates the need for higher-efficiency cyclonics in their machines, to keep more dust away from the filters for longer. And like I've said, Hoover, Dyson, Vax, Samsung and LG all offer this!

My point Model2 is the same as Venson's.  Electrolux is a major player in kitchen appliances in the UK and Europe.  And now making a name for itself in the USA for appliances.  Vacuums are secondary to Electrolux's business model/mission statement.  In the USA, the Electrolux brand is primarily a producer of bagged vacuum cleaners not bagless [EUREKA being both bagged and bagless].  Bagless technology is not relevant to Electrolux brand vacuum products in the USA.  

BTW, LG to my knowledge has no vacuums in the USA.

Carmine D.

Model2 wrote:

There's the answer to your question Model2.  If Electrolux is the 3rd biggest seller of vacuums in the UK market, a product that is not its mainstay line in that market, why bother to invest more time and money to compete for first/second place.

Carmine D.