Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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vacmanuk wrote:
Hi vacmanuk,

Just out of curiosity, is shopping in Europe limited border to border? As we've been commenting on vacuums sold in Europe though noot necessarily in the U.S., I have found that large manufacturers like LG and Samsung sometines offer different product in different places. As an instance a vacuum they might sell in Germany may not be the same as a model offered in Australia or Spain. My assumption is, were I European, if I wasn't quite satisfied with the offerings in my own country that I might easily find and buy something more to my liking in another. That would seem easy enough as we now have the internet.

Even better, most of those countries are blessed with the same electrical voltage. I would think European shoppers have more leeway to pick and choose than we do save for the additional cost of shippings and tariffs as they may apply.

I have two Mieles but the issue with the brand here is price. My main reason for buying either of mine was to have them in the house so I might better form an opinion through use regarding their worth instead of making judgements by way of specification sheets. And my opinion is that they are wonderful but they just cost too much.

I imagine that that this is due to the mark-up that falls into play concerning imports. A Mercedes here is a prized, coveted and expensive auto but I do recall how amazed I was that the Germans were using them as taxis. That's the kind of service we used to delegate to cheap American-made Chevrolets and Fords here.

Miele here is a niche brand and is usually sold in independent vac shops and by "select" vendors online. The exceptions I know of are two local chains, PC Richards and J&R carying some Miele canisters along with standard brands. Pricing for online shoppers is generally written in stone and "sales" involve not very significant price drops. We are now being challenged by a bad economy and people are tinking more than twice about what they flip out a credit card for.

People and business have been known to fall back when they get to feeling they're teh only game in town. No matter the maker, I'll always hope that we can avail ourselves of imports at least in the hope that a few "gems" may pop up here and there. Beside the competion that may put a little fire under some of our native appliance makers and get a few thinking more carefully about product and pricing.

As for the issue of quiet, I feel the more you spend the more you should expect. The ideal is a sound level low enough to allow you to carry on a conversation in a normal voice while you're working. Only a few vacuum makers -- even those who claim to make "quiet" machines -- list decible levels in the machine specs they offer.

Vacuums Like Filter Queen (our foremost high filtrstion vac at one time) and Lewyt strove for the goal of quiet operation and achieved it for years and years but somehow did not seem to impress the American public due to that. People were satisified to tolerate extra noise if they could spend less money.

Venson

WRT Electrolux Home Care Products, they are also the US distributor for Filtrete vacuum bags and belts which makes vacuum parts for assorted brands and models, including HOOVER.  Decent quality too and prices.

Interesting!?

Carmine D.

&lt;BR&gt;<BR> Venson wrote:
Sorry for the lateness of reply. In the UK and Europe some voltages are the same and some aren't, so as with the U.S if a UK buyer decides to buy in another model that isn't UK specific it may have a different voltage/amperage and a transformer would have to be bought so that the machine can work. In the UK generally buyers are not getting different models border by border, or district by district. Due to the size geographically of the UK any of the home websites of the brands on offer usually offer the same machines anywhere in the UK. As for Samsung being better than LG (response to HARDSELL) just because they appear to be better than LG in the audio department doesn't neccessarily mean its the same with every product line they make. I know this from experience and also that Panasonic's older upright and cylinder vacs are completelty different than they are in the U.S, are no less efficient but suffer from two drive belts, high noise and poor quality - which is nothing like any of the audio equipment I own with a Panasonic label on it. Infact in the U.S Panasonic's upright cleaners are available under the Miele Powerhouse tag.

vacmanuk wrote:

hi

ive heard that vacuums adapted [ transformer]  to run on a different voltage dont last as long..less performance. never tried so im not sure...have you.

I have never bought a vacuum cleaner that has a different voltage or needed a transformer other than a 110V Numatic Henry commercial tub I had to work with and the one I tried was already something like 15 years old. Its still going I think!

Model2 wrote:
Model2,

Don’t let the vac-whacks push you off this forum.  Pick your topics and/or battles and control the conversations.  I do.

Electrolux has applied for U.S. conical [Dyson inspired?] separation patent protection.  U.S. patent app: 20090235482 or zip file here.


DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:
Control the conversations?

DIB, You are a legend in your own mind!

DysonInventsBig wrote:
Control the conversations?

DIB, You are a legend in your own mind!

Trebor wrote:
How about... “steer the conversation” instead.

If you want to see a legend, then step back from your Carmine hero worship and take a look at the narcissistic-abuse he and others posted to T.G., Motorhead and Model2.  Turning away 3 top guys (historians) is in whose best interest?…the forums?...it’s readers (posters and consumers)?  T.G was a consumer-favorite at another site at one point in time.  Look around, where are they?

DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

dyson iB:

MH is alive and well and posts here if you read regularly.  TG has moved on to bigger and better things as vacuum museum curator and made amens with Tacony which debarred him as an authorized dealer when he was gung ho on dyson.  BTW, I advised Tom that it would.  Not sure about Model2.  But if he chooses to post here/not that's his business.  No adult makes another adult do anything that they don't want to do.  It's something we adults call free-will.

All may come and go here if they choose, even you.  Tho of late you appear to be on the defensive spouting conspiracy theories and psychotic interpretations of peoples' posts that bear little usefulness to the forum except in your own mind. 

Carmine D.