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DysonInventsBig


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Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Original Message   Jun 1, 2009 1:12 pm
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DysonInventsBig


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Re: Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Reply #4   Jun 1, 2009 5:19 pm
Venson,

Is there any doubt that Samsung cannot make a UV vac safe or as safe as the Oreck/Halo?  I did not bother reading the patent, I only looked at the drawings.  Samsung can add more patents if needed or use in the public domain switching.  The switching is not the strength of this vac, the idea that a consumer can purchase a cheaper alternative to the Oreck/Halo is.

Don’t you think the recent swine flu deaths and fears is a good time to begin work on a UV upright?

DIB


CarmineD


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Re: Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Reply #5   Jun 1, 2009 5:34 pm
Hi Venson, DIB:

Made a stop at the local ORECK store.  [BTW, the resident in one of the adjacent stores is no longer in business.]  The ORECK Halo was proudly displayed and we talked about it.  The ORECK sales lady did not push/pitch it in any way shape or form.  Quite the opposite.  SHe said it is 17 pounds, a tad on the heavy side compared to the ORECK standard.  She said it' recommended mostly for couples with small infants who crawl alot on the rugs and floors and are subject to allergies and/or have sensitivity to germs.  She laughingly said that her older children said there were no such vacuums with UV lights in their time, and they survived with no health problems.  It's strictly a niche seller to a limited market and ORECK is properly conveying that sales venue. 

BTW, the Steam It is due in next week.  Supposedly it is a homegrown ORECK product not a sourced item. 

Carmine D.  

CarmineD


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Re: Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Reply #6   Jun 1, 2009 5:56 pm
PS:  The ORECK halo is not pictured in the ORECK product literature, pamphlets and brochures along with the line up of uprights, compact canisters, air purifiers, and orbiters.  Another example of the product not considered by ORECK as a mainstream market seller.

Carmine D. 

vacmanuk


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Re: Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Reply #7   Jun 1, 2009 6:01 pm
I just don't hold that much salt to any vacuum cleaner that has a UV ray attached to it. For starters even if its going to kill bugs etc with a paper bag in place or a cyclonic system UNLIKE that of Dyson's 100% Suction all the time principle, the bag is going to loose out on suction and the only way you'll be able to tell if anything microscopic is being picked up is for the vacuum cleaner itself to have a microscope on it so that their owners can have perfect 100% peace of mind. Now of course things would be rather different if Dyson brought out a UV!
Venson


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Re: Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Reply #8   Jun 1, 2009 6:16 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Don’t you think the recent swine flu deaths and fears is a good time to begin work on a UV upright

DIB

Most emphatically -- no. Disease prevention at best is better brought about by simple methods and rules that all can avail tehmselves of and the use of common sense. Beyond that it all hangs in the luck of the draw.

Viruses are spread a great deal through unavoidable human contact. We ride public transportation, shop and eat in public venues and are even taken care of in public facilities when we are very ill. Unfortunately, most of us can't manage a house on a hilltop where we can stay while the rest of the world stays away.

I've visited hiospital IC units where trained staff has come to work with colds. Can that be avoided when you don't get paid if you don't work? How do you keep them out?

As it stands, there are yet no established specifics as to application of UV light in the instance of vacuum cleaners. No one can tell the individual user what amount of speed, area and time is required to guarantee effective use.

Venson
Venson


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Re: Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Reply #9   Jun 1, 2009 6:20 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Venson, DIB:</p><p>Made a stop at the local ORECK store.  [BTW, the resident in one of the adjacent stores is no longer in business.]  The ORECK Halo was proudly displayed and we talked about it.  The ORECK sales lady did not push/pitch it in any way shape or form.  Quite the opposite.  SHe said it is 17 pounds, a tad on the heavy side compared to the ORECK standard.  She said it' recommended mostly for couples with small infants who crawl alot on the rugs and floors and are subject to allergies and/or have sensitivity to germs.  She laughingly said that her older children said there were no such vacuums with UV lights in their time, and they survived with no health problems. . . .

Carmine D.  

Thanks for the Halo heads-up Carmine. That's what I'm talking about -- a hundred years later of "dust blowers" and civilization as we know it is still standing.

Venson
Venson


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Re: Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Reply #10   Jun 1, 2009 6:20 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Venson, DIB:</p><p>Made a stop at the local ORECK store.  [BTW, the resident in one of the adjacent stores is no longer in business.]  The ORECK Halo was proudly displayed and we talked about it.  The ORECK sales lady did not push/pitch it in any way shape or form.  Quite the opposite.  SHe said it is 17 pounds, a tad on the heavy side compared to the ORECK standard.  She said it' recommended mostly for couples with small infants who crawl alot on the rugs and floors and are subject to allergies and/or have sensitivity to germs.  She laughingly said that her older children said there were no such vacuums with UV lights in their time, and they survived with no health problems. . . .

Carmine D.  

Thanks for the Halo heads-up Carmine. That's what I'm talking about -- a hundred years later of "dust blowers" and civilization as we know it is still standing.

Venson
DysonInventsBig


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Re: Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Reply #11   Jun 1, 2009 7:00 pm
Venson,

I did not say UV solves problems, only that it would be a good time to begin work on a UV vac/bolt-on UV lamp.  This UV bolt-on looks to be the most cost effective (cheapest) to produce of all the UV upright patents on file in the U.S.  And what did it cost this Giant to develop?...  almost nothing.  Almost nothing is a cheap price to pay for locking up the U.S. cheapest to manufacturer-UV-in-an-upright (market).

Parents with infants and toddlers look to be the primary target market for sure.


DIB
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CarmineD


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Re: Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Reply #12   Jun 2, 2009 8:36 am
From what I can see, Samsung has no new vacuums of any kind on the market currently.  Does anyone know if there are any Samsung vacuums selling in the vacuum world today, either under the Samsung brand or another name brand?  And can you provide details, please.

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Samsung's- Dirt Devil Eraser / Halo inspired UV patent.
Reply #13   Jun 2, 2009 8:42 am
Hi Carmine,

Yes indeed! The Samsung "Silencio" bagless canisters are selling the UK. Samsung's Silencio and Nilfisk's Extrmem series are vacs that I've been hoping to see here. For whatever reason, the idea has not been attractive to either company.

Venson
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