Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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Good site.  Thanks Venson.

CarmineD.

Here, here Venson!
You've hit the nail on the head here where bagged cleaners are concerned here in the UK. Many retailers just aren't bothering to sell bagged vacuums because Dyson's commercials have really changed the minds of the consumers, that it doesn't make sense to consider bags anymore. I find it totally ironic when most of the user manuals for bagless state that a bag should be used by allergy owners if emptying in a loose bin brings up the dust from the vacuum dust bin when emptied.

Hoover UK and Electrolux are persisting in selling some budget upright vacuums (and Electrolux also have a new Professional upright in the UK, similar in look to Sebo's BS36/commercial series) but has a manual height adjuster as opposed to electronics. I just bought a budget Electrolux Powerlite upright today - dead cheap plastic, very flimsy but its very light, incredibly quiet and a boon to use over heavier uprights.

I think it's interesting that, as yet, Electrolux do not offer a multi-cyclonic bagless system. Hoover do, Dyson do, Vax do - in other words, all the other top sellers, other than Lux. They must have something currently in development, it would be unusual forsuch a popular mainstream-brand to lag so far behind the rest of the industry.

Model2 wrote:

Not really that unusual for a company which places more emphasis now on manufacturing and selling kitchen appliances [Electrolux] rather than just vacuums [HOOVER, dyson, VAX].   Vacuums round out the home care product line for Electrolux.  For HOOVER, dyson and VAX, vacuums are the mainstay product line.  At the BEST BUY stores in the US, which feature the Electrolux appliance line, all the Electrolux kitchen appliances are displayed, stocked and sold.  The vacuums, save the Pronto and Ergorapido, are on-line orders only.  The latter don't have a pervasive demand.  Lowes stores in the USA feature the Electrolux vacuum line as well as the others.

Carmine D.

I'm referring to Electrolux within the UK market, where Hoover-Candy (destinct from the TTI-owned US Hoover Company) has a full range of laundry and kitchen appliances, and Hoover, Dyson, Vax, Samsung and LG all offer multi-cyclonic cleaners. In this context, it is odd that Electrolux still rely on a pleated cartridge-filter.

Model2 wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong Model2, isn't Electrolux a large selling brand for kitchen appliances in the UK and European markets with a huge presence?  And has been for quite some time.  While Electrolux just launched recently here in the US for kitchen appliances through BEST BUY stores.

Carmine D.

Samsung is a small time player in the vacuum market.  Not its forte.  Samsung leads the world in large screen TV's.  Does LG have any vacuum products?

Carmine D. 

dyson and Vax don't have any kitchen and laundry appliances in the UK/Europe, do they Model2.  That is comparable to the likes of Electrolux?  Are you saying they do?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

I never said they did. What's your point? I'm not talking about what can be 'compared' to Electrolux, I'm talking about what Electrolux sell within the UK, and what Hoover sell in the UK, compared to what the respective brand-equivalents sell in the US.

Model2 wrote:
Hi Model2,

Electrolux AB, not a specialist in vacuums but a mass producer of large and small appliances, is at least making an effort in the bagless department with the new "Versatility" upright (link to user manual below)and the "Twin Clean" canister.

I haven't heard any report of the Versatility yet but the Twin Clean can has been out for a while. Lowest canister score being 57 and highest being 73, our Consumer Reports gave it an overal rating of 63. Consumer reviews were telling in that it is made apparent that very regular filter maintenance is necessary to keep this model up to optimum "out of the box" performance as time passes.

Just a guess on my part, Electrolux already has so many irons in the fire that it may not be overly worried about a state-of-the-art vacuum under its own brand. It also owns our Eureka brand and the bagless Eureka Boss 4D 5893 got rather nice scores in CR's last ratings.

Versatility Upright

http://smallappliances.electroluxusa.com/Files/79976_rev%201%20OG%20eng.pdf

Twin Clean Canister

http://smallappliances.electroluxusa.com/files/usa_english/0-999/77764_TwinClean_OG_r10.pdf

Best,

Venson