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Eureka 1934 The Boss
Original Message   May 17, 2009 3:56 pm
My central vacuum is currently out of service due to warping/melting pipes in the attic, and until I can rake up enough money to have an attic fan installed I had to buy a cheap temporary vacuum. I opted to buy the Eureka but have since noticed that the belts tend to wear out very quickly, I have to change them every couple of weeks and I only vacuum two to three times per week. I don't remember having to change a belt on this type of vacuum so often in the past. Is it normal for these vacuums to go through frequent belt changes? I thought about bringing out my Singer SST but its just too loud and hard to push.
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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Eureka 1934 The Boss
Reply #9   Sep 23, 2009 3:02 pm
Vacuumfreeeke wrote:
. . . I don't know why they can't put a light right on the front of of the machine where it belongs. 

Hi VF,

It's not done because it means money as far as the manufacturer is concerned. To put a headlight directly over or in front of where the brushroll sits means extra wiring if not a re-design. Vacuum makers are not in the habit of giving us "niceties" unless we're will willing to go for their mark-up in the process.

You'll see in the Eureka and any other brand line that the more you get, the more you pay.

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Eureka 1934 The Boss
Reply #10   Sep 23, 2009 4:22 pm
Vacuumfreeeke wrote:
The 1934A has 6 height adjustments instead of 3.  Amps mean only how much electricity the machine uses, not how well it can clean.  The Uno has the paper pleated filter that will clog almost instantly upon use.  The fan first design and the beater bars on the 1934A, not to mention the bagged design mean that it will outperform the Uno on carpet.  The Uno may have a headlight, but the light shines right on the base of the vacuum cleaner and casts a shadow on the floor actually hiding the dirt right in front of the cleaner, similar to Hoover WindTunnels.  Nice!!  I don't know why they can't put a light right on the front of of the machine where it belongs. 


Hello Vacuumfreeeke:

Thank you for the correction.  The EUREKA UNO has 6 height adjustments with the barefloor setting!  The BOSS 1934 upright doesn't have a head light, in part, because it is an inexpensive upright vacuum.  As Venson says, the more they add, the more they have to charge. 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Eureka 1934 The Boss
Reply #11   Sep 23, 2009 4:25 pm
Vacuumfreeeke wrote:
The 1934A has 6 height adjustments instead of 3.  Amps mean only how much electricity the machine uses, not how well it can clean.  The Uno has the paper pleated filter that will clog almost instantly upon use.  The fan first design and the beater bars on the 1934A, not to mention the bagged design mean that it will outperform the Uno on carpet.  The Uno may have a headlight, but the light shines right on the base of the vacuum cleaner and casts a shadow on the floor actually hiding the dirt right in front of the cleaner, similar to Hoover WindTunnels.  Nice!!  I don't know why they can't put a light right on the front of of the machine where it belongs. 


Hi VF:

The EUREKA UNO pre-motor filter is a foam rubber filter, even worse than the paper pleated, but is washable.  On a good note it is not in the dirt bin but separate from it.  The post-motor filter on the UNO is a HEPA rated paper pleated filter [but not washable].

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Eureka 1934 The Boss
Reply #12   Sep 23, 2009 4:49 pm
Hello Venson, VF et al:

One of the disadvantages of the conventional lightbulb in/over the brush roll housing is bulb failure.  The old SINGER uprights from the 50's and more recently the RICCAR/SIMPLICITY uprights with headlights in these locations tend to blow out quickly.  Why?  Herky jerky movements and vibration of the brushroll housing.  The LED lights have overcome the bulb failure problem but are costly and generally found only in the high end uprights with premium prices.  Except of course that infamous d brand.

Carmine D.

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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Eureka 1934 The Boss
Reply #13   Sep 23, 2009 6:31 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Venson, VF et al:<p>One of the disadvantages of the conventional lightbulb in/over the brush roll housing is bulb failure.  The old SINGER uprights from the 50's and more recently the RICCAR/SIMPLICITY uprights with headlights in these locations tend to blow out quickly.  Why?  Herky jerky movements and vibration of the brushroll housing.  The LED lights have overcome the bulb failure problem but are costly and generally found only in the high end uprights with premium prices.  Except of course that infamous d brand.</p><p>Carmine D.
Hi Carmine,

Thanks, point well taken. Do you know what Kenmore and Aerus have done to counter the problem in power nozzles?

I am greatly interested in LED light bulbs as of late but wonder if they are expensive because they don't quickly regenerate business by call for replacement or because they are costly to make.

My S7 Tango has the LED set-up and the PN on my Capricorn has what appears to be a florescent bulb right up front (takes a couple of seconds for it to fully light when switched on).

Venson
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Eureka 1934 The Boss
Reply #14   Sep 24, 2009 7:06 am
Hello Venson:

The risk of bulb blowouts and failures are not as great in power heads as full size vacuums.  I presume the law of physics is at work: Momentum/force is equal to the body's mass times its acceleration [as Newton tells us].  Presume that for the most part users employ the same/equivalent back and forth speed for vacuuming whether with an upright/cann with a power head.  The force required to push/pull full size vacuums with back and forth motions is far greater than the smaller and lighter power head nozzles.  When the vacuums/power heads encounter an immovable object [furniture/wall board], the impact is greater for the full size vacuums than the power heads.  Over time doing in the fragile light bulbs in the full size vacuums more frequently.

Carmine D.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Eureka 1934 The Boss
Reply #15   Sep 24, 2009 4:46 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Venson:

The risk of bulb blowouts and failures are not as great in power heads as full size vacuums.  I presume the law of physics is at work: Momentum/force is equal to the body's mass times its acceleration [as Newton tells us].  Presume that for the most part users employ the same/equivalent back and forth speed for vacuuming whether with an upright/cann with a power head.  The force required to push/pull full size vacuums with back and forth motions is far greater than the smaller and lighter power head nozzles.  When the vacuums/power heads encounter an immovable object [furniture/wall board], the impact is greater for the full size vacuums than the power heads.  Over time doing in the fragile light bulbs in the full size vacuums more frequently.

Carmine D.

HI CARMINE

On 12volt lights ......could you not use an  automotive / led taillight bulb ,,,,built for vibration and come in wedge or prong fitments....a little pricey but last youll buy [2 per pk]. wally carries them cheaper than auto store, but auto store has more sizes and wattages avail.....i cant see why it wouldnt work....just a thought.

turtle1

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Eureka 1934 The Boss
Reply #16   Sep 24, 2009 5:17 pm
retardturtle1 wrote:
HI CARMINE

On 12volt lights ......could you not use an  automotive / led taillight bulb ,,,,built for vibration and come in wedge or prong fitments....a little pricey but last youll buy [2 per pk]. wally carries them cheaper than auto store, but auto store has more sizes and wattages avail.....i cant see why it wouldnt work....just a thought.

turtle1



Hello 'turtle1:'

The laws of physics at work.  A 12 volt auto bulb will not work in a 110-120 volt electrical appliance.  Tho it is a good thought/idea.  As a good pastor said to me recently in charity:  It's an excellent idea Carmine except it doesn't work!

Carmine D.

retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Eureka 1934 The Boss
Reply #17   Sep 25, 2009 2:06 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello 'turtle1:'

The laws of physics at work.  A 12 volt auto bulb will not work in a 110-120 volt electrical appliance.  Tho it is a good thought/idea.  As a good pastor said to me recently in charity:  It's an excellent idea Carmine except it doesn't work!

Carmine D.


HI CARMINE

Some vacs use 12volt bulbs...194 ect....same as auto. ...for some reason i thought the eureka used a 12 volt bulb....been a little while since ive worked on a 1934.

turtle1

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Eureka 1934 The Boss
Reply #18   Sep 25, 2009 7:07 am
retardturtle1 wrote:
HI CARMINE

Some vacs use 12volt bulbs...194 ect....same as auto. ...for some reason i thought the eureka used a 12 volt bulb....been a little while since ive worked on a 1934.

turtle1



Hello 'turtle1':

I'm not familiar with any 12 V vacuum bulbs.  Only the 10, 15, and 25 watt with 120 v.  The EUREKA BOSS counterpart uprights with headlights use a 15 and/or 25 Watt 120 v bulb, bayonet style lock-in holder with 2 contacts.   

Carmine D.

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