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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Hoover Z . . .
Original Message Feb 10, 2008 12:30 pm |
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The Hoover Z was certainly not a great idea but at least looked like it might be. It's main failing for all its feature is the rather small mesh filter between the dust bin and the self-cleaning filter. It can become clogged relatively quickly and bring about a noticable drop-off of its already lackluster suction. The compartmentalized dust collection set-up -- a compartment for incoming dirt and another for dust shed by the rotating filter -- also does no lend to easy emptying. However, that's all old news. I visited a Home Depot in lower Manhattan about two days ago and was surprised to find the "Z" still for sale -- for $50.00. After all this time, this isn't flattering. It may not be good business, but I wonder why Hoover just didn't do a recall. After all we're talking about a vacuum that hit the market at around $500 or more and that has been allowed to hang around on shelves as its price has plummeted down to ten-percent of what it was initially. Of course a recall would have meant a loss to Hoover but might have meant saving face regarding this particular item. This also might not have been possible due to plans for the company's changing of hands. Though I hate the fixed prices some manufacturers demand their vacuums must be sold for, I must admit there may be some point to the practice regarding the maintenance of supposed value. Venson |
CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Hoover Z . . .
Reply #7 Apr 18, 2009 7:58 am |
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Hi Carmine,
I had decided to leave mine behind at our old space when the office moved last year but my, as usual, greedy boss did the expected and had it brought along to the new digs without consulting with me. Somehow it fell into the hands of the owner of the business we were renting space from and was ready for the trash heap in less than a day. Even though bought for merely 50-bucks I'd have preferred not to witness its death. (This is one of the reasons I have stopped giving vacuums to people.)
A major failing of the Z, as I see it, is that the self-cleaning filter is not average user maintainable. It requires a vacuum repair person who knows how to handle the job. If we're talking the gasket with the mesh screen that was an important component as as one part of the collection bin is deliberately isolated to collect only dust that falls off the revolving filter. It take it the body, etc., are still in good shape. How clean is the HEPA that's next to the motor?
Venson
Hi Venson:
I left the first HOOVER Z400 I bought from BEST BUY at my house in Virginia, so the realtor had a vacuum to use to keep the house in showroom condition. I suspect the new home owners got it, tho I understand the house went into foreclosure recently and is now owned/for sale by the bank. I'll add another reason for not gifting vacuums [besides the Shakespearian quote neither a lender nor a borrower be]. Seems the Maintenance Supervisor and custodian at the Church are petitioning the pastor for Commercial grade vacuums. Domestic are not good enough. The Custodian wants a back pack vacuum. The Maintenance supervisor wants an upright Commercial, no tools on board. Hence, my scoping out the EUREKA/ELECTROLUX Sanitaire at Sam's Club. Seems people are never satisfied with what they have even if free. Carmine D.
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Hoover Z . . .
Reply #8 Apr 18, 2009 9:32 am |
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. . . Seems people are never satisfied with what they have even if free.
Carmine D.
Good morning Carmine, From what I've seen, folks are usually more appreciative of and more careful with what they have to pay for themselves and I have learned not to deny them the privilege. Venson
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Hoover Z . . .
Reply #11 May 5, 2009 8:07 am |
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I would like to add one to my collection just because they are so unique... but don't want to spend more than 50 dollars for one used. I tried them out at Snears and thought they looked cool... I didn't like how far one had to reach for the switch, the self cleaning filter, or the door for the tool and cord, but still they are neat looking!
Hi VF, The Z's a ways down the line since its manufacture ended. I think your best bet is to set up a search alert on eBay and maybe one in good condition will turn up. There's one up today as a "buy-it-now/best offer". It is not in pristine condition and thus I see the seller's price as overly ambitious. Probaly not likely but as you never know, you might want to check out a Home Depot here and there. After taking a look discovered only one online vendor that has Zs in stock. It too has gone a a little nuys with the price -- $500 for the Z-700 and $400 for the Z-400. I wasn't aware of it but the primary filter can be had for $50 to $60. Best, Venson
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Re: Hoover Z . . .
Reply #13 May 5, 2009 1:07 pm |
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The shipping is more than what the machine is worth,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, regards MOLE |
CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Hoover Z . . .
Reply #14 May 5, 2009 5:06 pm |
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Hi VF,
The Z's a ways down the line since its manufacture ended. I think your best bet is to set up a search alert on eBay and maybe one in good condition will turn up. There's one up today as a "buy-it-now/best offer". It is not in pristine condition and thus I see the seller's price as overly ambitious. Probaly not likely but as you never know, you might want to check out a Home Depot here and there.
After taking a look discovered only one online vendor that has Zs in stock. It too has gone a a little nuys with the price -- $500 for the Z-700 and $400 for the Z-400. I wasn't aware of it but the primary filter can be had for $50 to $60.
Best,
Venson
Hi Venson et al:
HOOVER/TTI Web Site has the Z400 and Z900 in stock and new with 2 year warranty for $289 and $365 respectively. Down from MSRP but a far cry from discontinued and cheap. Ironically, reviewers give it 4 of 5 stars. Not the least bit surprised. It has its fans just like all vacuums. Easy to work on. Does and excellent job on floors and rugs and has some neat features for the prices. Carmine D.
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Hoover Z . . .
Reply #15 May 5, 2009 7:31 pm |
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It has its fans just like all vacuums. Easy to work on.
Carmine D.
Hi Carmine, How do you get at the primary filter? That to me is the biggest issue. To the best of my recall, Hoover placed no instructions for this in the cleaner's manual leaving me to assume that it requires a visit to an authorized repair person. I really felt it should have been more accessible for removal and replacement by users. Best, Venson
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Hoover Z . . .
Reply #16 May 5, 2009 9:14 pm |
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Hi Carmine,
How do you get at the primary filter? That to me is the biggest issue. To the best of my recall, Hoover placed no instructions for this in the cleaner's manual leaving me to assume that it requires a visit to an authorized repair person. I really felt it should have been more accessible for removal and replacement by users.
Best,
Venson
Hi Venson:
The self-cleaning pre-motor filter is accessible with the removal of 5-6 cover screws. It's easy to clean and re-install/replace. The post motor filter is also easy to access with just a turn/twist off of the filter cover. Carmine D.
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