Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Dyson Japan

HARDSELL wrote:

It is a well known industry fact that bagged vacuums, from the cheapest $40 Dirt Devil to the most expensive import, are and always will be more resilient to user abuse and misuse than a bagless dyson.  Ask any of the indies, dyson authorized too, who repair.  Look at yourself.  You were so confident in your DC07, what did you do?  You bought an extended service plan from BEST BUY along with your purchase.  Then couldn't use it because you sold the DC07 a few years after purchase.  Pay toilet dancing again.

HS you fail miserably to comprehend the reality of the consumer economy and spending on the the vacuum repair and parts business.  Vacuum users have to agree to doing the repairs and buying new/used parts.  In good times, vacuum customers forego vacuum parts and repairs and instead buy new every few years.  Big box rip off stores see their profits skyrocket.  In bad times, vacuum customers defer new vacuum purchases and instead repair their old vacuums.  Indies can make a decent living.  Too high prices, and/or shoddy workmanship, and the vacuum indies would lose the repairs, and parts business.  That's a formula for going out of business real quick like in bad times like these. 

Carmine D.

You HS and your anti indy poster DIB luv to minimalize the achievements/business acumen of the independent vacuum cleaner store owners and operators.  The backbone of the vacuum industry.  You malign and impugn us whenever you can.  When the we reciprocate with valid consumer and industry expert criticisms for the big box store vacuum brands, products and companies, who slave to them like your dyson and HOOVER, you take personal offense.  You call us names and try to undermine our business integrity and skills.  Have you or DIB ever been self-employed and run your own business.  For 42 years?  For one year?

Like I always tell DIB and it applies as much to you too:  Before you criticize the splinter in your neighbor's eye, remove the log from your own.  [That comes from the same good BOOK that DIB often quotes here when it suits his purpose].

Carmine D.

Hi Carmine,

I personally enjoy being the thorn in their side, So called big military industrial complex like corporations believe they are invincible and can get away with anything they want,This includes fleecing the consumer and being protected by the laws and the lawmakers who sold the little guys[middle class] out for profits and greed.

Anyone remember the french revolution.LET THEM EAT CAKE, or i got mine and the hell with you.

Dysons upright is made for less than 80 bucks.................

Seeing Dyson machines on sale for up to $100 off a cleaner that people said didn't need a sale price -my my. This is in the Dyson web site. Remanufactured machines too. That is an awful small digital motor. Says the magnet is tens that of a refridgerator magnet. The refridgerator magnets I see are not that powerful anyway.

                                                                                                                 Procare

procare wrote:

I saw a brand new DC27 still in carton with a bundled DC16 [handheld] included at a garage/yard sale yesterday in my community.  After 8 hours, it wasn't sold.   

Postscript:  A former poster here and a BIG TIME self-avowed dyson card carrying advocate once boldly posted that he would die of a heart attack first before a dyson would ever be sold at a backyard junk sale.  I posted in reply that I hoped his soul made it to heaven before the devil found out he was dead. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
I bet your lack of *good judgment - the DC27 and/or the DC15 were stolen.

DIB

*You should of called the police and let them decide to act on it or not.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
CarmineD wrote:
I want to say thanks to you and the other Dyson DC26 rock-throwers…  It forced me to take a closer look and see what some of the benefits are and what makes this vacuum untouchable.
Bagged canisters clog and lose suction faster than uprights – fact.  When a canister is shrunk in size, so is its bag or the surface area (its filtration).  All mini sized bagged canisters are dogs…  that is, they clog/begin to clog with suctioning up only a ¼ cup of fine dust.  A homeowner needs or should often need to replace a mini-bag every room so to keep up with the no loss of suction DC26.

The DC26 destroys any canister in this category – fact.

DIB

HARDSELL wrote:

If the point you are trying to make is that ORECK does not deep clean if you use it daily, then I disagree.  If the point you are trying to make is that ORECK doesn't deep clean with a brush roll that revolves at 6,500 revolutions per minute, then I also disagree.  If the point that you are trying to make is that ORECK doesn't deep clean because it lacks the necessary suction power, then I also disagree.  If the point you are trying to make is that for all 3 reasons, the ORECK does not deep clean, then I still disagree.  Conversely, for all 3 reasons ORECK does deep clean and groom comparable to many full size vacuums on the market today, if not better.

Deep cleaning is a function of 3 vacuum features:  Rug pile agitation, brush roll action, and suction power.  I suggest that you familiarize yourself with the concept of direct suction path.  ORECK puts 102 mile per hour hurricane force wind between the carpet and the vacuum.  Where's it's needed the most.  The combination of the rug pile agitation created by the brush roll revolving at 6,500 RPM and the gale force wind of 102 MPH wind with the suction power at the closest point of vacuum cleaner [2 inches in] provides deep cleaning and grooming by the ORECK that is comparable, if not better, to many full size uprights on the market today including a dyson.

Carmine D.

mole wrote:
Hi mole,

You did not mention what Dyson upright costs “80 bucks.”  Anyhow…  if true, then your $1000-$1200 “ancients” (aka tired vacuums) build costs should come in around 50 bucks.  The fact is, these ancients require no R&D and are no longer exclusive property (protected by patents), but instead in the public domain inventions (public property).   Any pimply-faced kid with daddy’s money can copy your tired vacuums at will.


DIB

P.S.  How come you have not announced here what brands and models you carry?

              To many the bagless vac is unhygienic. There is talk that self sealing disposable containers may increase in popularity. Also wonder what is the true power is in a 115 volt motor  versus 220 volt in use over seas. 165awp is at 220 volts not 110.

              It has been noted that  many U.S. made vacuums achieve better cleaning performances as good or better than European vacuums despite our using up to 1400 w 0r 115 volts. Europe is even considering cutting wattage of their cleaners down thus needing work to improve performance Any truth to that DIB? You seem to know all.

                                                                                                                                                                                 Procare.