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Acerone
 
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The all new Dyson DC26 "Japan"
Original Message Mar 13, 2009 5:05 pm |
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CarmineD
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Re: The all new Dyson DC26 "Japan"
Reply #82 Oct 10, 2009 4:22 pm |
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Am I hiding something? Absolutely!
I’m glad you found something you’re good at... swapping out clogged vacuum bags for clean ones. Riveting!
Good distracting story and con. Mole has posted on this forum that he sells a vacuum that retails for $1200 (and you know it). I say vacuums at these price points profit the vac dealer around $600-$800. Dyson’s margins for dealers is only a small fraction of this. These small Dyson margins and no additional [exclusive often only thru the dealer] bag and belt sales are the primary reasons dealers lie and bad mouth the competition - that is, the Dyson vacuum line.
DIB
DIB:
The only part of your post that is truthworthy and with which I agree is the highlighted part. All the rest is smoke and mirrors to hide behind. Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: The all new Dyson DC26 "Japan"
Reply #83 Oct 10, 2009 4:37 pm |
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DIB: New vacuum sales were never a money maker in my 42 years of owning and operating a vacuum cleaner sales and service business. I sold new vacuums as an accomodation to my clientele. For example, customers would come in and want a new vacuum purchase for a gift/occasion. New in the box fit the bill. The new makes/models I sold new were HOOVER, EUREKA, Westinghouse and Panasonic. If you think these are and ever were high profit margin vacuums you validate what we already know here about you and your knowledge of the vacuum industry. My business served the working people of 3 major cities and towns. New import models were out of the question. If customers wanted a new KIRBY, LUX, Rainbow, Air-Way, I put them in contact with one of the sales reps/branch managers for these brands. I never asked what the prices were and/or a kick-back, despite many who offered me a kickback. My business was primarily in rebuilt vacuum, which I GUARANTEED for ONE YEAR just like a new vacuum at the time, parts and repairs of all makes and models of vacuums. Not new vacuum sales. Never. Now that you know my background in the vacuum business, care to share with us what is your background in the vacuum business/industry? I've asked you this before and you always are silent. While we in the business, apst present, like MOLE, Procare, and others are forthright and honest. Makes us think you are hiding something. Are you hiding something? Carmine D. HI CARMINE You did things the right way...the only way.....thats why you and so many here are and were in the business for so long....plain and simple. Fly by night groupies/collectors come and go...but its you guys that are a part of history.....present and future.....you guys set the standard for all to follow. Riccar -panasonic -hoover -sanitaire comm -royal mtl comm-fuller......are what we sell new. we double mfg warr at no charge. Kirby-royal mtl comm-sanitaire comm- are what we sell used....all with 1 yr warr...if and when we get them.
If we dont have what the customer is looking for..and it happens....we can track down who does and send the customer there......and half the time they return to us . We dont do the massive DYSON price shaft thing......dont need to. We have a solid- honest reputation and stand by all we sell/service....and make the customer the most important priority......here in the bible belt word of mouth will either make you or break you....and word spreads fast around here. turtle1
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: The all new Dyson DC26 "Japan"
Reply #84 Oct 10, 2009 4:42 pm |
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DIB: The only part of your post that is truthworthy and with which I agree is the highlighted part. All the rest is smoke and mirrors to hide behind. Carmine D. The Book (not a weakened/watered down book) says not to throw my pearls before swine. Hiding good things is apropos. DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: The all new Dyson DC26 "Japan"
Reply #86 Oct 10, 2009 5:18 pm |
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HI CARMINE You did things the right way...the only way.....thats why you and so many here are and were in the business for so long....plain and simple. Fly by night groupies/collectors come and go...but its you guys that are a part of history.....present and future.....you guys set the standard for all to follow. Riccar -panasonic -hoover -sanitaire comm -royal mtl comm-fuller......are what we sell new. we double mfg warr at no charge. Kirby-royal mtl comm-sanitaire comm- are what we sell used....all with 1 yr warr...if and when we get them.
If we dont have what the customer is looking for..and it happens....we can track down who does and send the customer there......and half the time they return to us . We dont do the massive DYSON price shaft thing......dont need to. We have a solid- honest reputation and stand by all we sell/service....and make the customer the most important priority......here in the bible belt word of mouth will either make you or break you....and word spreads fast around here. turtle1
Hello 'turtle1'
The vacuum business is no different than any other sales and service industry. Treat customers right, stand behind your products, give value for the price, and your business, with a good economy, will grow itself. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: The all new Dyson DC26 "Japan"
Reply #87 Oct 10, 2009 5:45 pm |
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HI CARMINE You did things the right way...the only way.....thats why you and so many here are and were in the business for so long....plain and simple. Fly by night groupies/collectors come and go...but its you guys that are a part of history.....present and future.....you guys set the standard for all to follow. Riccar -panasonic -hoover -sanitaire comm -royal mtl comm-fuller......are what we sell new. we double mfg warr at no charge. Kirby-royal mtl comm-sanitaire comm- are what we sell used....all with 1 yr warr...if and when we get them.
If we dont have what the customer is looking for..and it happens....we can track down who does and send the customer there......and half the time they return to us . We dont do the massive DYSON price shaft thing......dont need to. We have a solid- honest reputation and stand by all we sell/service....and make the customer the most important priority......here in the bible belt word of mouth will either make you or break you....and word spreads fast around here. turtle1 Retardt, It’s only a shaft if Dyson is the doorkeeper to a “cannot survive without it” commodity. Your problem is choosing a low-wage occupation and then lying about those who have the guts to go it alone - who walk the wire without the safety net of an employer. We live in a free market and often times low-wage earners feel like victims, feel entitled and feel they can lie about doers. Your choice. Your dealer buddies here sell vacuums with double the price tags and double the margins (for dealers) than Dyson vacuums. Additionally the profits keep pouring in when they have an exclusive territory and are typically the sole supplier of bags, belts and repairing/servicing to these so-called exclusive [i.e. hyped, in the public domain] vacuums. “Dyson shaft” is another example of a lie told by a Dyson competitor. DIB P.S. Glad to see you borrow my “groupies” tag where I describe the goofs who look up to bad-mouthing and dishonest vacuum dealers. I liked it, that’s why I introduced it.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: The all new Dyson DC26 "Japan"
Reply #88 Oct 10, 2009 6:56 pm |
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The BOOK, which I know fairly well too, also says the truth shall set you free! Carmine D. ...Yet you slave to lies. I doubt you spent even one day in this "freedom" (after childhood), if you did you'd want to remain there. DIB
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HARDSELL
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Re: The all new Dyson DC26 "Japan"
Reply #89 Oct 10, 2009 7:33 pm |
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Retardt,
It’s only a shaft if Dyson is the doorkeeper to a “cannot survive without it” commodity. Your problem is choosing a low-wage occupation and then lying about those who have the guts to go it alone - who walk the wire without the safety net of an employer. We live in a free market and often times low-wage earners feel like victims, feel entitled and feel they can lie about doers. Your choice.
Your dealer buddies here sell vacuums with double the price tags and double the margins (for dealers) than Dyson vacuums. Additionally the profits keep pouring in when they have an exclusive territory and are typically the sole supplier of bags, belts and repairing/servicing to these so-called exclusive [i.e. hyped, in the public domain] vacuums. “Dyson shaft” is another example of a lie told by a Dyson competitor.
DIB
P.S. Glad to see you borrow my “groupies” tag where I describe the goofs who look up to bad-mouthing and dishonest vacuum dealers. I liked it, that’s why I introduced it.
DIB,
You should know by now that it is not about vacuum sales. It is about profits in parts accessories and REPAIRS, hence the dislike for Dyson. Carmine supported repairs and parts for 3 major cities. Never sold a Dyson or Dyson part. Yet he tells us how poor the quality is with Dyson. Truth is the other brands require as many or more repairs, belts bags, etc than Dyson. Otherwise those like Carmine could not have survived and the others would not have such a dislike for Dyson. Did I forget to mention that Dyson has bitten one when he down played their possibility of being a threat to another brand?
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: The all new Dyson DC26 "Japan"
Reply #90 Oct 10, 2009 8:07 pm |
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DIB, You should know by now that it is not about vacuum sales. It is about profits in parts accessories and REPAIRS, hence the dislike for Dyson. Carmine supported repairs and parts for 3 major cities. Never sold a Dyson or Dyson part. Yet he tells us how poor the quality is with Dyson. Truth is the other brands require as many or more repairs, belts bags, etc than Dyson. Otherwise those like Carmine could not have survived and the others would not have such a dislike for Dyson. Did I forget to mention that Dyson has bitten one when he down played their possibility of being a threat to another brand? Hardsell, Don’t you believe it... New vacuum sales account for much. What do you mean in the above (orange)? DIB
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procare
Joined: Jul 16, 2009
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Re: The all new Dyson DC26 "Japan"
Reply #91 Oct 10, 2009 8:11 pm |
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DIB, H.S., To me Dyson is a Niche cleaner with others trying to grab a piece of the action.What percentage of the business is Dyson trying to get? What percentage of the country will buy Dyson? I don't mean Dollars spent but percentage of the machines sold. As far as Dyson's service , there is always one coming in whereever there are Dysons sold. Parts would not be available if they weren't. No vacuum cleaner even the weak powered Dyson are invincible and don't need repair. The new DC-26 is weak at 165 airwatts power. It compares to some of the of the better performers of the late 1980's. Sanyo sold a Mite Hunter in the 80's advertised with 170 airwatts power. Dyson is not God's gift to the people as you would have us believe. A man had an idea and people said they liked the idea. Many are being turned off after using the various cleaners including Dyson. As long as there is someone out there that hasn't heard of Dyson and his concept there will be some sales. But there will always be repair. Procare |
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