Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

How long until someone exposes the rubbish and lies of [vacuum cleaner] *clubbers and *dealers who use YouTube as their platform? 


DIB

*Not all, just many (are dirty).

Model2 wrote:

As the story goes, J. Murray Spangler had severe allergies to dust and dirt.  So he was unable to get up close and personal with the dirt by using a broom and dust pan [the usual tools of the day].  Spangler's first portable vacuum was made of rudimentary objects that he put together into a vacuum.  After he acquired enough money he fitted the electric motor and bag to a manual carpet sweeper of the day.  These were in use for several decades by this time and sold commonly through the SEARS catalogue for just 5-6 times the cost of a broom [2 bits at the time].  Early vacuums even used the generic name "electric sweeper" in deference to its carpet sweeper roots.

Rather a motley looking picture of Mr. Spangler.  Probably in his early 50's. 

Carmine D.

One can only assume" Boss" Hoover spun in his grave faster than a windtunnel brushroller when the Chinese closed the Canton Plant...

Model2 wrote:
Model2,

Wow!  I have to rush out, I will comment more later.

Many, many thanks,
DIB

Lucky1 wrote:

I'm not so sure.  Maybe for sentimental reasons.  Buy for practical reasons?  BOSS HOOVER was a practical business man.  The plant was over 100 years old.  What would it have taken to bring it up to current standards?  Alot.  Too much.  Raze and start over.  It was a good run.  Time to begin anew.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

I can't see 'Boss' Hoover looking kindly on the termination of so many, many loyal workers' jobs. As someone who took such good care of his local community - as preacher, as mayor, as generous (and frequently anonymous) benefactor - I'm sure he would be just as disgusted with what happened as many of the rest of the rest of us were. When he passed away, two services had to be held to accomodate the sheer number of mourners who had travelled to pay their respects. He wasn't your average cold, ruthless 'captain of industry'. He was a real humanitarian, and I don't think he could fail to overlook the human impact caused by the closure of his beloved, century-old factory.

Not for nothing have the North Canton locals branded TTI 'Totally Tradition Ignorant'.

BOSS HOOVER was a business man with a heart and a sense of service to his workers and the community.  All good business men know that things don't stay the same forever.  BOSS HOOVER was, after all, a leather goods man who reinvented himself and his business to survive.  He understood the need for practicalism and realism for business to survive and flourish.  

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

The company Boss Hoover built is long-since dead. It's just a name now. I suppose it must do what it can to survive.

Since, Mr. Hoover was a man of God he would indeed cringe seeing his good works squandered and then sold to a den of thieves.        DIB

I disagree.  The HOOVER company as you and others like to remember it is dead. 

I'm sure some believed that when J. Murray Spangler died, HOOVER was over.  When HOOVER went from metal to plastic vacuums, HOOVER was over.  When BOSS HOOVER died, HOOVER was over.  When HOOVER went from d-t-d sales and small independent vacuum dealers to big box retailers, HOOVER was over.  When HOOVER stopped making beater bars, HOOVER was over.  When Maytag bought HOOVER, HOOVER was over.  When Whirlpool bought HOOVER, HOOVER was over.  When TTI Floorcare bought HOOVER and closed the HOOVER stores and the NC, Ohio plant, HOOVER was over.  None of them were correct.  These events individually and in total did not make HOOVER over [despite the letters on the smoke stack].  With them over, eras in HOOVER were over.  Traditions were over.  Not HOOVER.  Like Trebor said, in the final analysis, what matters is who's left standing.  BOSS HOOVER can take comfort in Heaven knowing that HOOVER is still standing.  Changed?  Yes.  Different?  Yes.  But alive and doing well and still going strong after 100 years.

Carmine D. 

The message the companies never understand is that the bottom line is never really the bottom line. Customer service becomes lip service once the stockholders gain control and start demanding more profit each quarter. Amazon was written off by Wall Street, but they kept investing in themselves to position themselves as the #1 global e-tailer, which they have become. Their motto could be 'forever better', but it's taken. The people at Amazon still constantly strive to improve the customer's experience. Once the easier road is taken, it turns quickly into a steep, treacherous slope, where all thoughts of the direction one is headed are lost in trying to remain upright (no pun intended) while avoiding collisiions with obstacles and looking for a soft place to land.

I think if the Hoover company had made choices true to Boss Hoover's legacy, instead of expediency, the new Hoover factory would be underconstruction right now. I think Hoover would have stayed in the housewares business, and perhaps expanded into lawncare tools, power tools, and sewing machines. I do not believe the all metal beater bar would have been totally abandoned, perhaps remaining as an option. Hoover vacuums would still be found in better stores, where the salesman would talk to the customer about her home and preferences and budget, and taken the right mix of product to show her for total home care, with the Norca name supplying the big box retailers with stripped down bare bones vacs to compete with Eureka and BisselI, and a generous 'trade-UP' allowance on a real Hoover. You can be sure Hoover would have a vacuum approved by CRI and carpet manufacturers for use on frieze. I think Boss Hoover would have grabbed up Dyson's invention of cyclonic technology, and made him wealthy beyond his wildest dreams. Oh, I think he would have produced bagless vacuums, but they would have been attractive, durable and convenient, and properly launched on Hoover's terms in the marketplace. The sale to Maytag never would have happened, and Hoover would be a flourishing multi-national manufacturing corporation, green before it became a buzzword, a model of egalitarian and humanitarian employment and decorum in the marketplace.

Trebor