Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Story here:  http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/40463852.html

"Satisfied Dyson users are without exception fastidious people who take extraordinarily good care of their household equipment. "  Trebor

Agree. 

Ironically, this category of vacuum customers generally shop/buy at their local independent vacuum stores and not big box retailers, which is dyson's primary sales venue.  Complicating the picture is that many of the big box retailers are struggling to stay afloat and some maybe more won't.  They are and will go belly up.   

James can change course.  Reinvent himself/his business, as they say now, in the current hard times.  Also of note is that Malaysia, the dyson country of origin, is broken economically and politically.  James, if he's the smart inventor and business man that many here claim, is thinking seriously about surviving and prospering in the future.  Expecially with the current worldwide recession looking more and more like it will be long and protracted.  The latter is called a depression.   Whether that's with a capital "D" or a small "d" is still uncertain.  Time will tell.

Carmine D.

J.C. Penney newly adds an Exclusive line of ORECK uprights and giveaways to its venue of vacuum cleaners. 

http://www.jcpenney.com/jcp/SearchDepartment.aspx?SearchString=vacuums&JSEnabled=false&mscssid=&submit+search.x=13&submit+search.y=12

Note too that these new ORECK uprights are available in the stores, not just on line as are most of the vacuums at J.C. Penney.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
New in stores and already discounted by 25%.  NOT A GOOD SIGN.

CarmineD wrote:
I'd like to see Oreck win the "Oreck v. TTI - who produces the better Oreck vacuum?  Since Oreck is the lessor of 2 evils (TTI the other), I'd like to see Oreck survive, employ/keep employing Americans (legal) workers and contribute to our economy.  But!... Avocado green vacuums?...  Why?  Oreck is unwilling to build good looking products.  I am not a designer but look at the Oreck handle and Radio Shack-like rocker switch, it’s awful.  Most try to conceal the mounting screws... not Oreck.  Their portable vac looks like a shoebox.  I'm embarrassed for them.  Based on price and styling alone, Oreck and their employees may "pay" for these choices...  lost revenues = lost jobs.


DIB

Here is a pic of a [JC Penney] Oreck handle vs. a TTI handle.

The standard ORECK upright model [XL Classic] offers the tried and true industry standard handle grip.   The deluxe ORECK models offer the "Helping Hand Handle," exclusive to ORECK, which lets users operate the vacuum without clenching their hands or straining their wrists.  It is ergonomically designed to relieve the stress and strain on wrists, arm, and elbows.  And, has earned ORECK the Arthritis Foundation Ease-of-Use Commendation. 

As an regula ORECK user, I prefer the switch on the handle grip.  As opposed to the standard industry ORECK grip which has the power switch on the vacuum [see my review of the ORECK XL Classic in the reviews section of this page].

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Fortunately, the buyers and Execs for J.C Penney do not share your views and like the ORECK features and vacuums enough to offer them to their store/internet customers.  I trust their experience and judgement over yours.

Carmine D.

J.C. Penney reported annual profit for the year ended Dec. 31, 2008, of $567 MILLION dollars.  It's current stock price is $25 plus with a 52 week high of $45.  Penney's also reported better than expected sales results for the first quarter 2009 ended March 31, 2009.  See its news releases for Q1 results dated April 9, 2009.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:
CarmineD wrote:
What do you think the suits were motivated by mostly?...

1. Oreck’s inability to come close to matching TTI’s patented technologies, features, styling and price?  or...
2. The exclusive to JC Penney Avocado Green?  or...
3. Oreck’s brand name, margins and advertising budget?  or...
4. Other reasons?

DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:
DIB,

You must have been just a toddler back in the '70s when "flower power" hit. All manner of vacuum brands, including Hoover, were sporting all sorts of wild prints on outer bags and flower decals on canisters. Shetland-Lewyt being the worst offender.

As well, instead of the new use of black and brushed stainless steel "high-tech" finishes for large appliances, avocado and "copper" were all the rage back in the day. This is just a color recycle that will be used for now, forgotten and thought of again somewhere down the line. You should also note that Electrolux AB's new line of cleaners are using bright lime green.

My S7 has a wonderful metallic cherry red finish. I like it so much that it's taking all I can do not to have the car painted to match.

Venson

Venson wrote:
Venson,
I like most any color era, as long as it is applied to something new.  The Oreck is mechanically old and the retro Avocado look reinforces this.

Millions undoubtedly have viewed Dyson’s Ball commercial - where he uses old (1970's) film illustrating the the old vacuum look and how we used em.  Why would Oreck and JC Penney’s introduce a product that looks old and that Dyson demonstrates to many as old?


DIB