Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

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PS 'turtle1':  I agree with you.  Dyson is a niche seller and of late is struggling unsuccessfully to keep its market share of sales year over year even in the UK.  It's less expensive [read more affordable] and often times better performing bagged/bagless vacuum products of the competition are gradually eroding dyson's once prominent sales position.  Which by the way was constantly blasted to the vacuum industry by dyson and its supporters.  Not to mention that the global meltdown in consumer buying and confidence has sounded a solemn death knell for the over priced, over hyped, over hawked 'd' brand.  If it doesn't reinvent itself, win favor with its products among industry watchers, and slash prices, dyson will go the same route as halo.

Carmine D

DysonInventsBig wrote:

What good is a steerable $400/$500 plus product/niche market if the darn thing doesn't perform after a few months and/or get under furniture and beds?  Another question that will go unanswered.

Innovation is highly overrated, especially in a down global economy.  Reference: HALO!!!  $70 BISSELL bagged/bagless Clearviews, $199 ORECK uprights and $80 HOOVER TEMPO vacuums sell well and always in good times and bad.  AND they perform better than your steerables for much less.

Carmine D.

BTW DIB would you care to share your historical observations about halo and its web page with us again for the record!

What were your exact words:  The high tech web page will sell MILLIONS!  Was that it?  Please correct me if I'm wrong.  What happened to halo?  Bought by a competitor you like to bash here for a bargain basement price less than a year after you made your infamous prediction!  Now what was that you were saying about dyson products?  Mainstream?  Top seller?  Where?  Not even in your or HS houshold!  With loyal customers like you, no wonder dyson is missing in action on 2008 financial comments/reports.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Sounds like you when you said the Hoover Fusion and "z" would be the down fall of Dyson.  It didn't happen.Hoover went busted and Dyson is surviving.

CarmineD wrote:

Do you honestly think that the vac industry sales in any city that you live in is indicative of what is hapening nationally?  What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.  Low Dyson sales there is not indicitave of their survival or failure.  Same as where you moved from.

Hoover (per you) was going great when it went busted a couple years back. 

HARDSELL wrote:

Hello HS:

The oustanding sales of HOOVER Fusion [a TTI sourced bagless upright] at Wal*Mart stores was instrumental for dropping dyson's DC07 Original for several years.  Least I remind you it is still going strong after several generations of newer and better models.  Z is still in the HOOVER TTI line up.  How many discontinued dysons still are?  BTW how many new dysons have you added to your household.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL wrote:

HS:

There you go again with your dyson colored glasses.  At least you have the honesty to admit that dyson sales are tanking in Las Vegas and the metro Washington DC area.  May I add ORECK and HOOVER are going great guns from the reports I receive.  Watch the sales and ads nationwide HS.  What vacuum makes and models are always in the retailers' pages?Not high priced dysons.  Waste of advertising money.  Unless like BEST BUY stores recently offering a $100 off the latest and greatest dyson DC28 for $600 [sale price $509] within the same month of launch.  Why?  To generate some sales. 

No my dear dyson friend:  Dyson sales are tanking globally not just in one or two cities in the USA.  You and your dyson twin are in denial.  The dyson party's over.  Dyson needs to revamp and revise its prices and products, get some favorable sales exposure from the experts including the indies, and hope the global economy recovers.  If not, it's sayonara on the old metal guitar for your fave company.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

You have stated more than once that pricing was the issue between WM and Dyson.  Fusion is not going strong.  Most all Hoovers are in their lineup.  If anything this had more to do with their downfall than profitability.  Last I heard the Z was going for $50 and still not selling.

How many Hoovers have you added since discovering Oreck?  No need to keep inferior models like Hoover (if the newer are better).  I liked the DC07 and you know that I have not been positive about its replacements.

CarmineD wrote:
What I notice in the ads is low end product to draw customers.  Hoover has always been on sale which makes me wonder what retail should actually be.  Right, no need to advertise if you are selling good.  Tom Oreck reports differently than you.  Of course he probably never look at sales in NV and DC since you watch thes for him.

CarmineD wrote:

HI CARMINE

i ask this.....whats the big deal about a steering ball?  its vacuum not a porsche.  Y not take the dc7, fix the flaws , add the ddm with a larger impeller.

....keep the price under $300......youll  have a  vacuum with some credibility that will be taken seriously and not as a niche vac nobody wants to touch.

Dump the rest of the line-up of uprights...@ that sorry handheld  .reprice the can.....at or below $200....and dyson stays in the game.

Tempo is a simple vacuum that has the same quality as the dyson.....yet will outperform all dysons at the low low low price of under $100....thats all that matters.

its an issue that dyson cannot and will not address...because he cant. ...400+ engrs. and they cant come up with an upright to meet or beat a  Tempo?

guess  thats ..high end ennovation at work...sometimes simple just works better.