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DysonInventsBig
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Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Original Message Feb 15, 2009 4:22 pm |
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How long until someone exposes the rubbish and lies of [vacuum cleaner] *clubbers and *dealers who use YouTube as their platform? DIB *Not all, just many (are dirty).
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Venson
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Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #24 Feb 21, 2009 3:34 pm |
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Panasonic made the Icon in 3 bagged models, and 3 bagless. I have two bagged examples (the same models pictured), and a mid-ranged bagless. I wasn't commenting on their performance in comparison to anything else discussed in this thread, I was just saying they were a fantastic machine. I'm pleased to see their Direct Drive agitator is still in use on the market; it's just a shame they were discontinued in the UK in 2001. WRT Hoover's legacy, every upright vacuum out there can trace its family tree back to the Model O! Direct drive uprights have been made under the Kenmore brand for some time and have continually rated well in our main consumer magazine. I however do not have any info as to their record in regard to repair. Venson
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CarmineD
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Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #25 Feb 21, 2009 7:05 pm |
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June 2007 Electrolux Intensity vacuum: First Look A unit that folds into a small package. Did it come up big in our tests? COMPACT POWER The Electrolux Intensity upright vacuum, $300, offers plenty of suction and folds into a neat package. Name of product: Electrolux Intensity EL5020 vacuum Price we paid: $300 Date of Consumer Reports full report: October 2007 What it is. A 16-pound, 12-amp folding upright that has a short, 3-inch-long air path. The manufacturer claims that this design provides 50 percent greater suction than leading upright vacuums.
What we liked. The Intensity folds up into a 17x12x14-inch boxlike shape, so it requires less storage space than many other uprights. The vacuum did an outstanding job of cleaning bare floors and achieved excellent results in our emissions test. It also did very well in cleaning carpeting and picking up long pet hair. The vacuum is equipped with a HEPA filter, a brush on/off switch, a 21-foot retractable power cord (not common on uprights), a full-bag indicator, and a telescopic handle that adjusts for users of different heights. What we didn't like. Unlike many uprights to come out in recent years, this vacuum lacks a hose, so you can’t attach any tools to clean drapes, upholstery, ceilings, or crevices. The vacuum also lacks manual pile-height adjustment, which limits its cleaning performance on carpets, and its 1-quart dust bag is small, requiring frequent changes. And despite its modest weight, the Intensity was not easy to handle or carry. Our initial take. The Intensity is a reasonable choice if you have limited storage space, and it excels when cleaning bare floors and carpeting. But the vacuum isn’t easy to maneuver on carpet. Based on our preliminary testing, we’d steer you toward other less-expensive lightweight vacuums that clean as well and offer more features, such as the Eureka Boss Smart Vac Ultra 4870, $150, or the Hoover Tempo Widepath U5140-900, $60. For more information on those models, see our Ratings (available to subscribers) . More information. Whether you’re in the market for an upright or a canister vacuum, read our latest report for expert advice on how to find the right vacuum. And be sure to watch our exclusive video buying guide. Also from Consumer Reports, a slightly more objective narrative in addition to the numbers. Of note, among other things, the Electrolux claim to have 50 percent more suction than other leading uprights. Carmine D.
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Model2
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Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #26 Feb 21, 2009 10:38 pm |
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Once again, the interesting disparity between the Which? findings, and those of Consumer Reports... Which? give 2 out of 5 stars for allergen retention, CR calls the emission results 'excellent'. Also, CR describes the weight as 'modest' - empty, it weighs 7.8kg, which is as much as some full-sized uprights with onboard tools.
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CarmineD
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Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #31 Feb 22, 2009 7:49 am |
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Agreed. It's a shame, because many put their trust in CR. Bag technology aside, surface area is king, yet the Electrolux Infinity ranks high. Hmmm
Assuming as I did, that DIB's reference above is to the Electrolux Intensity, the subsequent posters discussions which incorporate several leading vacuum industry authorities, like WHICH?, Consumer Reports, and the ASA [granted 1 and 3 are in the UK], then a third party interested vacuum buyer should conclude that bag surface area is not king [as the bag holds only 3 ounces vice 5 or more for most], but engineering is.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #32 Feb 22, 2009 6:30 pm |
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Panasonic made the Icon in 3 bagged models, and 3 bagless. I have two bagged examples (the same models pictured), and a mid-ranged bagless. I wasn't commenting on their performance in comparison to anything else discussed in this thread, I was just saying they were a fantastic machine. I'm pleased to see their Direct Drive agitator is still in use on the market; it's just a shame they were discontinued in the UK in 2001. WRT Hoover's legacy, every upright vacuum out there can trace its family tree back to the Model O! Model2, Can you share any info... when were the casters first used on an upright? Do you have any patent numbers or inventors names connected to the Model O. Thanks! DIB
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Model2
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Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #33 Feb 22, 2009 8:34 pm |
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Model2,
Can you share any info... when were the casters first used on an upright? Do you have any patent numbers or inventors names connected to the Model O.
Thanks! DIB
Hi DIB,
the first large-scale production machine to use casters was indeed the 1908 Model O (I say 'large-scale production'; less than 400 were made!). However, before J M Spangler and W H Hoover joined forces to create the Electric Suction Sweeper Company, Spangler was making a very similar machine himself at a rate of 2-3 per week. These also had the caster wheels, so they were technically the first upright machines to use them. Hoover's earliest machines were just too big and heavy to be used without the rear casters; it would be like trying to steer the Titanic! Here's a picture of one of Spangler's 1907 pre-'Electric Suction Sweeper Company' cleaners, in which you can see the swivel caster at the rear of the chassis. The patent for this 'Carpet Sweeper and Cleaner' is filed under the name J M Spangler. However, the cleaner shown in the patent illustration differs from production machines in several ways: the hose for the dusting tools attaches differently, the brush-roll seems to be driven by a sort of axle-system, not a belt, and most importantly for you, the rear wheels are shown as being fixed-axle type, not swivel casters. I guess they came as a slighly later improvement when production began!
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