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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Original Message   Feb 15, 2009 4:22 pm
How long until someone exposes the rubbish and lies of [vacuum cleaner] *clubbers and *dealers who use YouTube as their platform? 


DIB

*Not all, just many (are dirty).
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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #1   Feb 15, 2009 7:43 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
How long until someone exposes the rubbish and lies of [vacuum cleaner] *clubbers and *dealers who use YouTube as their platform? 


DIB

*Not all, just many (are dirty).

Hi DIB,

People are not all that gullible.  It only looks that way because we're all overwhelmed with decisions to make. 

I still maintain that it's all a lot of twaddle and not worth a whit of worry.  As I mentioned in another thread, there is no ideal vacuum -- just the vacuum cleaner that one person prefers over another.  Thus, you can say anything you want, do anything you want, set up whatever kind of demos you want but the product you're pushing will still only be bought by some.  We are lucky here as competition is encouraged and we're still somewaht economically able to purchase what we want.

Good old Jerry did not sell me either Miele that I own -- after a good amount of personal research, examination of features and believe me reading user comments that said more to me than the ads -- I sold myself.   I could have bought just about any brand I wanted.  I decided all on my own that I did not want Dyson or a new Kirby or Nilfisk or a Rainbow, an Aerus or  Oreck or  Emer. I bought what I wanted.  However, do I feel you have ot buy it just because I said do --NO!

If you can't make up your mind  intelligently and on your own in regard to where you put your money -- the best thing to do is leave your money in the bank.

Venson
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #2   Feb 17, 2009 2:16 am
Venson,

I think the conning vacuum dealers day in the sun is almost over.  Only a fool would place video on the net demonstrating the different cons.  If David Copperfields tricks can be exposed online, so too can the various vacuum cons.  I realize this YouTube con (man} is only one guy, but these tricks of the trade are common amongst the dirty.  Exposing the cons would hurt many in the industry.

DIB
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #3   Feb 17, 2009 7:10 am
Time and the internet have dispelled all the vacuum myths of years gone by.  Had the internet existed decades ago, HOOVER would never have had the problem it did with the unscrupulous door-to-door sales people who perpetrated the long lasting myth that the agitators' beater bars prematurely wore out carpets and rugs. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #4   Feb 17, 2009 2:48 pm
Hey Carmine,

I’ve yet to see the breakdown (online) pertaining to how the cons and their tricks are performed.

Thanks for the bit of history...  falsehoods and false performance claims go back a long way.

DIB


Lucky1


Joined: Jan 2, 2008
Points: 271

Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #5   Feb 17, 2009 3:01 pm
Like Consumer Reports is any better? LMK.

How about all the saps who bought an "ELECTROLUX" Oxygen because they thought it was the same vacuum their mom had for 20 years. That is the lowest of the low!
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #6   Feb 17, 2009 4:40 pm
Lucky1 wrote:
Like Consumer Reports is any better? LMK.

How about all the saps who bought an "ELECTROLUX" Oxygen because they thought it was the same vacuum their mom had for 20 years. That is the lowest of the low!

Agreed.  It's a shame, because many put their trust in CR.  Bag technology aside, surface area is king, yet the Electrolux Infinity ranks high.  Hmmm


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #7   Feb 17, 2009 6:21 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Hey Carmine,

I’ve yet to see the breakdown (online) pertaining to how the cons and their tricks are performed.

Thanks for the bit of history...  falsehoods and false performance claims go back a long way.

DIB


Some not so long.  Check snopes under:  "Never clogs, never loses suction."  You should find MOLE's statement posted here many many times in quotation marks:  "Laughingstock of the industry."  ASA got the final laugh. 

Carmine D.

mole


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Location: earth
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Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #8   Feb 19, 2009 1:42 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Some not so long.  Check snopes under:  "Never clogs, never loses suction."  You should find MOLE's statement posted here many many times in quotation marks:  "Laughingstock of the industry."  ASA got the final laugh. 

Carmine D.


.

I thought they should of changed the colors,then eveything would of had been better.Any one like orecks am/fm/ c/d player attached to the handle??????????

It wasnt me....

MOLE

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
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Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #9   Feb 19, 2009 4:43 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Hey Carmine,

I’ve yet to see the breakdown (online) pertaining to how the cons and their tricks are performed.

Thanks for the bit of history...  falsehoods and false performance claims go back a long way.

DIB


CarmineD wrote:
Some not so long.  Check snopes under:  "Never clogs, never loses suction."  You should find MOLE's statement posted here many many times in quotation marks:  "Laughingstock of the industry."  ASA got the final laugh. 

Carmine D.


...Myths.  NAD and the general public are perfectly fine with Dyson's claims.

DIB
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Little vacuum cleaner men in big YouTube chairs...
Reply #10   Feb 19, 2009 5:25 pm
I can't speak for the NAD [like you] and have not seen an official position from it on these dyson claims.  Let alone one that even vaguely supports your innuendo.  I can speak for the general vacuum buying public and say both former dyson claims: "Never clogs, and never loses suction" are the 2 biggest myths ever perpetrated on the vacuum industry in all my years of professional experience.  Both are attributed to your fave dyson brand within the last 6 years. 

The question for me and others [which remains unanswered] is how many new dysons were sold to unsuspecting buyers who relied on these false and exaggerated claims.  I suspect many were returned to retailers when their owners learned the truth which accounts for the huge resale market for used/refurbed dyson vacuums. 

It's a moot point now except for the future and the more wiser:  Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.  

Carmine D.

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