Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Your reference to Mohawk's declined warranty is quite the opposite of your assessment of Dyson's brush.

It reads:  Mohawk suggest a beater bar for the carpet. They say the Dyson' brushed are two stiff.

One of you is wrong.  Do we believe an egotistical old fart or a major manufacturer?  BTW, you seem to think this manufacturer is very knowledgeable.  Wonder if they would say the same about you.

Carmine, please accept my sincerest apology.  I was referencing the humilation of the Z.  I have never and hope to never wish ill happenings to any individual.  Yes, we have some heated disagreements but there is no animosity on my part.  Hope you feel the same.  Regardless you are still a bonehead. 

Have a pleasant afternoon and keep those insults coming.

Second, I did not give the quote in its entirety "History warns us that it is the customary fate of new truths to begin as heresies and to end as superstitions.
Thomas Huxley"

Ask any physicist (or astronomer) about the validity of that statement, or look at Hoover. The beater bar was the heresy that actually turned out to be the great truth,(and still is except for glue down carpet.) The stainless steel beater bar had softer bristles, and was actually gentler on carpet than stiff bristles with no beater bar. The fact that the beater bar has fallen into disuse as an old-fashioned idea does not change its effectiveness. When the Electrolux plant was still in Bristol,VA, their test carpets were cleaned with a contraption that was like a giant inside-out Hoover 700, with the test carpets actually fed into its mouth and passed out its-actually it worked quite well. The engineers agreed that Hoover was right about the effectiveness of the beater bar, however, the carpet or rug had to be picked up off the floor and held by the nozzle as the vacuum was pushed back and forth, not possible with a power nozzle, at least not a really maneuverable one. At one time "The earth moves around the sun", "gravity pulls all objects equally", and "the earth is a sphere" were ALL heresies worthy of death to any who dared speak them. And there still is a flat earth society whose members believe that the appollo missions to the moon were all faked. Anyone here want a membership application snail-mailed to them?

Seems you settled down.

The facts and circumstances are there for all to read and interpret as they like, if they like.  You too.  They can verify with Mohawk and dyson and not take my word or any other.  I mentioned to you that a large regional rug and appliance retailer here in LV recommended against dyson on the rugs I have.   Suggesting HOOVER and others with a manual height adjustment.  My ORECK works fine.  No rug height adjustment!  But ORECK is lighter than full sized vacuums and doesn't get buried down in the rug pile.  I told you too that my builder and his floor/rug contractor recommended against dysons on the rugs that residents and I have in our homes in my community.  Citing instead HOOVER and ORECK.  Maybe due to the fact that these brands are approved by the Carpet and Rug Institute and dyson is not.  BTW, the CRI cite is referenced in the link I provided to you too.  This is all rehashed information I've told you a half dozen times before.  I didn't make it up.  You can choose to believe or disbelieve.  Just like my Mohawk wool carpets. 

Carmine D.

Hello HARDSELL:

Simple explanation, believe it or not.  It's my interpretation. 

This is a non-vacuum industry person providing his interpretation of the exchange with dyson/rug retailer.  I take this to mean that his dyson Animal is a DC17 not DC07, but it doesn't say for sure.  Especially since the poster's date is August 2008 more in time with the DC17.  And like dyson told me, disconnect the brush roll/use straight suction and/or attachments [on the rug!!!].  The poster was probably told the same by dyson.  And the poster says Mohawk recommended a beater bar.  I interpret this as a revolving brush not straight suction.  But the brushes on the dyson [DC17] are too stiff and cause damage.  If you research the other link I provided, the model in question is a DC17.   But the rug distributor does not make the voided warranty model specific instead disallowing all models by that brand.

Carmine D.

    bright until you hear them speak.

    bright until you hear them speak.

..............and for a very limited few, their brilliance radiates like the sunshine!  But, of course, one must be able to read and comprehend to understand and appreciate them!  Since you didn't know and asked me the question, which I answered and explained to you in very short order, figure out who is who.  Take your time before you answer.  I don't want you to have to change your mind [again].

Carmine D.