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vaclov
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NEW Hoover Upright
Original Message Jan 23, 2009 11:02 pm |
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I don't know if anyone has seen this but I think I like it better just by hearing how it sounds, seems much more quiet than the Oreck. This vacuum comes with a 6 year warranty at only $399, pretty good deal. Sorry if this was posted already.  HSN Video: http://home-solutions.hsn.com/hoover-platinum-collection-lightweight-bagged-upright-vacuum-with-handheld-canister-vac_p-4709906_xp.aspx?webm_id=0&web_id=4709906&sf=hw&attr=644&ocm=HW|644&prev=hp!sf!644&ccm=HW|644 |
Model2
~ It Beats...as it Sweeps...as it Cleans ~
Location: England
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #18 Jan 25, 2009 4:08 pm |
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Lightweight uprights are the industry envy now. Reference: dyson's DC18 and DC24. And now HOOVER/TTI. ORECK pioneered the lightweight upright, it is ORECK's mainstay product, the industry lightweight leader and the original, which others copy. Copying/imitation are the highest forms of flattery. Carmine D I guess that says a lot for all the Dyson imitators out there...
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #20 Jan 25, 2009 4:17 pm |
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I guess that says a lot for all the Dyson imitators out there... Absolutely. Works both ways. If dyson is praiseworthy for having its copycats, then the same goes for ORECK. Most especially if the vacuum innovator of the 21 Century, as we are told here, is one of the copycats. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #21 Jan 25, 2009 4:22 pm |
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Yes, and in the UK at least, those people peer at such features through half-moon spectacles, when their aching fingers force them to put down their knitting.
God bless them, they are still alive and well despite all their frailties! Air-Way is dead and gone despite all its technological innovations.
Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: Oreck XL7 vs. Dyson DC24 - the Which? verdict.
Reply #22 Jan 25, 2009 5:02 pm |
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Model2, Yes, CR and Which may recommend other cheaper and/or more featured and/or better rated vac’s over the Oreck. Yet, when a person is sold on the idea of buying an Oreck vice anything else and since the Oreck has a high price tag... the cheaper w/more features Oreck-like Hoover looks financially enticing (i.e. hurts Oreck’s sales). Additionally, I believe Red-Hoover at will, can destroy most anyone on pricing since they are Chinese owned and control much retail shelf space (Hoover, Dirt Devil, VAX, etc.). A $98 Whisper proves this out. Surely Red-Hoover instills much fear in their competitors. Fear, not of innovation, but of being knocked off and then underpriced. DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: Oreck XL7 vs. Dyson DC24 - the Which? verdict.
Reply #23 Jan 25, 2009 5:06 pm |
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A $98 Whisper proves this out. Surely Red-Hoover instills much fear in their competitors. Fear, not of innovation, but of being knocked off and then underpriced.
DIB
Yes indeed DIB. It was a $98 HOOVER bagless upright Fusion, which consistently received NO BUY ratings from CR, that KO-ed [knocked-out] dyson's DC07 [$379] at Wal*mart stores in 2005 in just about 6 months.
Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: Oreck XL7 vs. Dyson DC24 - the Which? verdict.
Reply #24 Jan 25, 2009 5:15 pm |
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Yes indeed DIB. It was a $98 HOOVER bagless upright Fusion, which consistently received NO BUY ratings from CR, that KO-ed [knocked-out] dyson's DC07 [$379] at Wal*mart stores in 2005 in just about 6 months. Carmine D. I recently looked at Hoover's last 100 patents and applications, not one is of the Fusion... Can't patent something that's knocked off. DIB
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Oreck XL7 vs. Dyson DC24 - the Which? verdict.
Reply #25 Jan 25, 2009 8:05 pm |
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Yes indeed DIB. It was a $98 HOOVER bagless upright Fusion, which consistently received NO BUY ratings from CR, that KO-ed [knocked-out] dyson's DC07 [$379] at Wal*mart stores in 2005 in just about 6 months. Carmine D.
Do others find it strange that a vacuum that could perform this feat is not on WM site.
There are, however 8 Dysons for sale on the site. All with 5 star ratings. Of course Carmine only presents what he wants us to read. Truth is WM and Dyson had other issues. Fusion did not cause the demise of Dyson. Hoover Z was also going to be Dyson's demise per Carmine. Hoover had to practically give the Z's away.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #26 Jan 25, 2009 8:12 pm |
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The ORECK use of "top fill bag" is truthful, accurate, and correct. Attributes which never get old and out of date even after 50 years. If some here can get enthralled over 50 year old obsolete technology patent drawings of a defunct company, I suspect ORECK can find some people who like to read its "padded" features. Carmine D. And to think that it took an ex pro 50 years to discover Oreck. Some things never get out of date, they just do not produce like the modern versions.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #27 Jan 25, 2009 8:16 pm |
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Considering that the ORECK bag is one of the largest in the industry [6 quart capacity], contains all the dust/dirt during dumping, and is replaced in seconds by the user, it is effective technology. Just like ORECK's direct air flow suction technology. Perfectly simple. Perfectly effective. Carmine D. A 1 qt. bag would be sufficient to hold the annual dirt collected by the Oreck. I am sure they use more belts than bags.
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