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vaclov
Joined: Aug 1, 2007
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NEW Hoover Upright
Original Message Jan 23, 2009 11:02 pm |
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I don't know if anyone has seen this but I think I like it better just by hearing how it sounds, seems much more quiet than the Oreck. This vacuum comes with a 6 year warranty at only $399, pretty good deal. Sorry if this was posted already. HSN Video: http://home-solutions.hsn.com/hoover-platinum-collection-lightweight-bagged-upright-vacuum-with-handheld-canister-vac_p-4709906_xp.aspx?webm_id=0&web_id=4709906&sf=hw&attr=644&ocm=HW|644&prev=hp!sf!644&ccm=HW|644
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #46 Jan 27, 2009 12:57 pm |
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HARDSELL: I answered this question at least once before for you! Old customers and their families and friends still ask me about vacuums. I buy, use, keep, gift vacuums, just to assist them and stay current in the industry. BTW, I sent you TWO private messages with TWO links that I promised above about the Mohawk warranty and rugs. One appears to be fairly recent, August 2008. You may want to check the date of your reference, it may be old. The other is a Web SIte for a rug distributor which according to another poster here voids rug warranties with dyson use. Check them out for yourself. I'm really happy for you. Actually, according to my latest brain scan I have two sides: right and left. Most people do I'm told, tho some don't use them. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #47 Jan 27, 2009 1:39 pm |
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Do you know positively that the clutch was eliminated because of problems or because of design on newer machines? Facts only please. Another double standard by you. Hey HARDSELL:
Actually for this one, I defer to DIB. He stated here recently that in his opinion many dysons are returned and refurbed due to clutch chatter. That's a dyson euphemism for "gawdawful ratcheting noise." On this opinion of fact, I concur with DIB. I suspect it is a significant reason that dyson scrubbed the clutch. If you like I can privately email you DIB"s post here with it. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #48 Jan 27, 2009 1:52 pm |
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5. Ahh. Such a wonderful past. Better to exit in glory than to stay and be humiliated.
6. Is it possible that the future may present truths and not biased unsubstantiated opinions from you?
Hey HARDSELL:
On this one, I follow your lead. I asked you several times why if you liked a DC07 so much, did you sell after 3 years? And not buy another dyson, but instead 2 other brands: Kirby Sentria, Royal Emminence, and now HOOVER Whisper. Not that I have anthing bad ro say about these choices. They are all fine choices if you can't make up your mind. Youe answer was that when you're good and ready, you'll buy another dyson. Personally I'd say you're working/waiting on another as a gift. I have a DC07 pink! When I'm so inclined, I'll exit here. Glory and/or humiliation will probably play no part. Neither will your and dyson's hoping. BTW, truths are truths whether or not anyone believes and falsehoods are falsehoods even if all believe. Opinions by their nature are biased. I have my share and so do you. And we both express them here. Readers and posters in need of assistance can pick and choose what and who they wish to follow. If there are any of your points that I may have missed, please let me know. Always happy to accomodate you, my friend. Carmine D.
This message was modified Jan 27, 2009 by CarmineD
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #49 Jan 27, 2009 1:52 pm |
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Hey HARDSELL: Actually for this one, I defer to DIB. He stated here recently that in his opinion many dysons are returned and refurbed due to clutch chatter. That's a dyson euphemism for "gawdawful ratcheting noise." On this opinion of fact, I concur with DIB. I suspect it is a significant reason that dyson scrubbed the clutch. If you like I can privately email you DIB"s post here with it. Carmine D.
From your orevious quote: All truths start out as heresies
You should not start or quote heresies. The do not always turn out to be the truth. Sort of like your opinions which are half truth at best.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #50 Jan 27, 2009 1:57 pm |
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HARDSELL: I answered this question at least once before for you! Old customers and their families and friends still ask me about vacuums. I buy, use, keep, gift vacuums, just to assist them and stay current in the industry. BTW, I sent you TWO private messages with TWO links that I promised above about the Mohawk warranty and rugs. One appears to be fairly recent, August 2008. You may want to check the date of your reference, it may be old. The other is a Web SIte for a rug distributor which according to another poster here voids rug warranties with dyson use. Check them out for yourself. I'm really happy for you. Actually, according to my latest brain scan I have two sides: right and left. Most people do I'm told, tho some don't use them. Carmine D.
Why not just give them a new vacuum as opposed to used? No need to try before you buy. An ex pro as yourself should know what to buy without trying.
You became non-current when Dyson made a monkey of you. Have a banana and relax. I buy and try just to keep old biased self appointed experts in line when they try to deceive.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #51 Jan 27, 2009 2:02 pm |
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Hey HARDSELL: Do you think DIB would tell a half-truth here about dysons? My reference that you quote referred to my own assessment of dyson's limp brush bar going back to April 2002 when I first saw it. It was met as heresy here by many pro-dyson folks. Now even dyson and its biggest advocates admit the brush bar [like the clutch fail safety feature] is its weakest link. Hence the brush bar was scrubbed on later models in favor of a more industry standard brush roll. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #52 Jan 27, 2009 2:09 pm |
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Why not just give them a new vacuum as opposed to used? Here's another question I answered many times before for you. I do gift new vacuums too. Like the 3 new ORECK XL-s. But only after I use and they meet my approval. I really enjoy bananas and never buy them green! And we were all monkies even before dyson came on the scene. Read Darwin's Theory of Evolution. Monkey is in our genes. Yours too, perhaps more so than others. Especially based on your analogy of high rate of divorces to purchases of many and different vacuum brands! Marriage breakups and buying different brand vacuums every year are related physiologically and pschycologically? Really? With your high degree of vacuum indecision, deception by anyone, save yourself, is a moot point. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #53 Jan 27, 2009 2:32 pm |
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Carmine, Thanks for the link to my3cents. I found it on an earlier search and could not connect. How many interpretations could be made from the story? The writer did not mention the style of carpet. Could it be one of those that Mohawk recommends being cleaned with straight suction? One such as yourself should be aware that some styles (as berber) are prone to damage easily if snagged. By anything. The article only stated that Mohawk was not responsible for damage by the sweeper. No mention of Dyson specific. Do you think that Mohawk asked what brand vacuum was being used? Did they simply refuse warranty that was not a manufacture defect. Vacuum makers specifically state that liquids are not to be vacuumed. No need to specify which liquids. No need to specify brands if your warranty recommends straight suction. Again, I hope your Oreck does no carpet damage. On a recent visit to a Hi Fi store I stopped next door at a flooring center. They sell Mohawk floor products. When I inquired about the warranty exclusion the owner gave me a blank stare and replied that he had never heard this. Before typing this I call one of our major floor centers (Mohawk retailer). I received a laugh and was told that Mohawk had never mentioned this to them. If it is in the warranty one would think that a major retailer would know this and communicate it to their customers either before or after the purchase. I choose not to make judgement on one highly interpretive story over thousands of positive reviews and highly satisfied users. Just for the record. Do carpet makers exclude damages from the brush that can't be turned off and is left running in on spot? Please tell me this can't happen because my wife's former boss had it happen in his home. I believe his house keeper was using a HOOVER.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #54 Jan 27, 2009 2:38 pm |
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Hey HARDSELL: Do you think DIB would tell a half-truth here about dysons? My reference that you quote referred to my own assessment of dyson's limp brush bar going back to April 2002 when I first saw it. It was met as heresy here by many pro-dyson folks. Now even dyson and its biggest advocates admit the brush bar [like the clutch fail safety feature] is its weakest link. Hence the brush bar was scrubbed on later models in favor of a more industry standard brush roll. Carmine D.
Your reference to Mohawk's declined warranty is quite the opposite of your assessment of Dyson's brush.
It reads: Mohawk suggest a beater bar for the carpet. They say the Dyson' brushed are two stiff. One of you is wrong. Do we believe an egotistical old fart or a major manufacturer? BTW, you seem to think this manufacturer is very knowledgeable. Wonder if they would say the same about you.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293
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Re: NEW Hoover Upright
Reply #55 Jan 27, 2009 2:44 pm |
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Hey HARDSELL: On this one, I follow your lead. I asked you several times why if you liked a DC07 so much, did you sell after 3 years? And not buy another dyson, but instead 2 other brands: Kirby Sentria, Royal Emminence, and now HOOVER Whisper. Not that I have anthing bad ro say about these choices. They are all fine choices if you can't make up your mind. Youe answer was that when you're good and ready, you'll buy another dyson. Personally I'd say you're working/waiting on another as a gift. I have a DC07 pink! When I'm so inclined, I'll exit here. Glory and/or humiliation will probably play no part. Neither will your and dyson's hoping. BTW, truths are truths whether or not anyone believes and falsehoods are falsehoods even if all believe. Opinions by their nature are biased. I have my share and so do you. And we both express them here. Readers and posters in need of assistance can pick and choose what and who they wish to follow. If there are any of your points that I may have missed, please let me know. Always happy to accomodate you, my friend. Carmine D.
Carmine, please accept my sincerest apology. I was referencing the humilation of the Z. I have never and hope to never wish ill happenings to any individual. Yes, we have some heated disagreements but there is no animosity on my part. Hope you feel the same. Regardless you are still a bonehead.
Have a pleasant afternoon and keep those insults coming.
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