Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

OK, here is a post for the pro's. For years I have used a Dyson DC11 and Dyson DC21 as my primary vacuums in the house. I also had a GE Canister Vacuum Model 106766(which is actually a rebranded Eureka HP6855A can). I have had a great experience with the GE can, but incurred the occasional problem with cleaning efficiency with both Dysons. My house is primary hardwoods with some floor cloths and area rugs scattered throughout. The downstairs is a very expensive low cut frieze which cannot have a brushroll used on it per the manufacturer. I went to Wal-Mart to purchase some bags for the GE can and found this beast below on sale for $148.00. A friend of mine had a struggling Hoover Elite that was ready for the trash pile so I gifted the older GE can to them and replaced it with the GE 106766 below. I tried to find some info on this machine online, but was unable to garner anything on who makes it, etc. It looks to be a Eureka of some type as it shares some characteristics of their Boss Can and their Air Extreme can. I was lucky enough to find bags and filters on eBay in quantity very cheap. Anyone have any ideas on this one? I know for a fact it outcleans both my Dysons hands down. The filtration according to a particulate counter is very low even though the can doesn't seem to be fully sealed. The suction is so good with a new bag and filter that you have to pry the hard floor tool off the floor when on full suction. The plastic is a little suspect in the build but otherwise seems to be a solid product. I will post a full review after a little more use. Any info or thoughts on the origin of this little guy would be great.

http://www.govacuum.com/lib/vacuumcleanerbacgs/GE169072

Wal*Mart is too smart to make a losing decision like a bail-out without financial strings attached:  Ownership and control of the companies, its Boards, and its executive compensation.  It's called the Warren Buffett business model.

Carmine D.

Does wally world and home cheapo,sell nitrogren  instead of air for tires??????????

MOLE

Hello MOLE:

No nitrogen.  W*M [thru SAM's Club] sells "gas" at prices lower than COSTCO, even considering the 3 percent refund per gallon that COSTCO rebates to customers who use AMEX credit card for gas purchases. 

Carmine D.

OK, so the professional opinion at the vac shop today was that this is indeed a mash up of a Eureka/Electrolux Harmony canister and a Riccar Moonlight. The body had some of the very same stylings as the Eureka/Electrolux but the innards as he showed me were very much like the Riccar he had on the floor. He said almost all the parts from the Riccar would be interchangeable; however, curiously, the stamp on the motor was labeled Electrolux Home Care, Bloomington, IL. He postulated that Riccar may be using some of the same factories as Eureka to manufacture their Harmony/Oxygen units and vice versa, the Moonlight and Sunburst. Its possible that Wal-Mart stepped aside from the manufacturers and commissioned their own vac from the manufacturer and passed up the middle man all together. Maybe this is just the start of Wal-Mart using the GE brand to go beyond just vacuum cleaners, and small kitchen electrics.

lazaruspup wrote:

Hello Drew:

Both postulations, his and yours,  are excellent and reasonable.  Thanks for the follow up info.

Carmine D.

Di d this canister use cn-1 bags???

mole

The info on this thread is so wrong.  Didn't anyone remember what I said when the two models first came out?  The info on the site you linked to is wrong also.

And no the CN-1 bags are for the GE/Eureka canister that was green.

mole wrote:

Hello MOLE:

The [CN-1] are the paper bags for the first green GE Wal*Mart canister.  Here's a pic from the W*M site for the CN-1 bags:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4066646

By comparison, here is a pic of the paper bags for the latest Wal*Mart GE canister [bronze] model 169072.  From the GoVacuum Web Site.  [Not on the W*M site yet].

http://www.govacuum.com/gecavabaform.html

Also, W*M carries the replacement bags for the bronze GE 169072 cann under the Arm & Hammer brand name for $5.97 for 3 bags.  Decent made allergen bag too from the appearance.  Click on the "GE cann bag"

http://www.armhammervac.com/prod_cats/ge.html#

As Dusty indicated, the GE 169072 bag appears identical to the RICCAR Moonlight and Sunburst bag.  Tho, the Arm & Hammer replacement specifically cites the GE 169072 model with no reference to the RICCAR.  There was no A&H replacement on the W*M shelves for the RICCAR Moonlight and Sunburst models.  At least not in the W*M store I was in and looking at.  Not yet.

Carmine D.

Mike,<BR><BR>Enlighten those of us that weren't around when these were released and tell us what you said?? What is so wrong about the info in the thread?

Edit: Actually I looked up Mike's assertions and as I stated in the above info, I don't doubt that TTI might have manufactured this vacuum, but if they did, they are using some Electrolux/Eureka parts, as well as borrowing ideas from Riccar/Simplicity. The stamp on the motor inside the vac clearly stated Electrolux Home Care, Bloomington, IL and the bags are obviously interchangeable with the Moonlight/Sunburst/JackandJill. Honestly as I said, out of curiosity, I would like to know where these are coming from, but do I care?? No. Its a pretty good product for the price.

Hello Drew:

Me thinks that Mike W. doth protest too much, to quote Mr. Shakespeare.

The Chinese vacuum producing plants are probably used by several vacuum companies producing different vacuum brands and models.  Especially for canns.  On several occasions, others here [like MOLE for instance just recently] have commented that the new vacuum models [especially canns] regardless of the brand names are all looking alike these days.  I noted too that the latest TTI/HOOVER Tempo didn't use a typical HOOVER brush roll but one that looked like a EUREKA.  BISSELL Healthy Home uses one that looks like a HOOVER WT brush roll.  Probably because they are all produced in the same country at the same plants by the same workers.  At the end of the assembly line is a rep from each company ready to slap on a particular brand name sticker.  Why?  It's easier and cheaper to make, track, and market.  The bigger issue for vacuum users is really the parts: Which brands/models are interchangeable and where are they available. 

These are difficult economic times for vacuum makers too, just like everyone else.  They work together to coexist and survive or they go their merry ways and hope for the best.  Which business path is smarter?  Nothing new.  Vacuum makers have been doing this for years, decades, generations. 

Carmine D.