Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Hello DIB:

Lest you forget, I'll refresh your memory.  ORECK suffered a direct hit on its New Orleans LA plant in August 2005 by Hurricane Katrina. It didn't miss a beat.  First, ORECK accounted for all its employees:  Paid them their full salaries and benefits during all the ORECK down time; moved its Headquarters operations temporarily to Texas; conducted business operations out of its network of 500 Clean Home Health Centers; and permanently relocated its production facilities to Tennessee.  During the aftermath of the Hurricane, ORECK family members reached out to the medical facilities and shelters to assist the Hurricane victims by contributing their time and money to the recovery efforts.  Sadly, several dyson campers wallowed in ORECK's tragic events and circumstances.  Boldly declaring ORECK dead, and ready to dance on its grave.   You forget! 

Your foam filter analysis is foolhardy.  The HOOVER TTI "cordless" Linx stick vacuum is for quick pick ups and sells for $179.   Your fave "corded" full sized vacuum sells for $400 plus.  And dyson's false/exaggerated claims that it never clogged with nearly maintenance free lifetime filters and zero costs.  Dyson traditionally likes to match itself up against lesser expensive brands and models.  Rather than equally expensive and, heaven forbid, more expensive brands.   Self-serving comparisons.  Admissions of overpricing.   Lest you forget too, I'll remind you, that the 2 dyson models you cite which require monthly filter maintenance are it's latest and greatest for $400/$500 plus.  Better than reading the funnies.

Carmine D.

Thanks TTIPowerT for the follow up response to set me straight.  I'm amazed whenever I use the WT vice any other vacuum for carpet cleaning.  The difference is glaring.  Nothing bar none compares with the HOOVER WT for rug and carpet cleaning and grooming.  A smart poster here said that the WT is the Gold Standard for carpet cleaning.  He is right.  And it wasn't me.

Carmine D.

I have to agree if they buy from the big box retailers.  If they buy from a vacuum store, consumers will be better served for parts and service.  There is an irony in this development.  HOOVER back for sale where they started in the independent vacuum stores.  If hefty fines and fees are levied for peoples' disposal of plastic throw away vacuums for recycling, perhaps we'll see a return of the all metals.  Now that would be ironic.  Especially if it happens in my lifetime.

Carmine D.

Still upset I see about your 2008 dyson bonus?

Lest you forget, I'll remind you.  For over 45 years ORECK has been made in the USA.  Buy American and keep jobs and money here in the USA.  Lest you forget too, HOOVER produces/sells vacuums in the big box retail stores with prices of $70-$200.  Performance wise, these are better than the more expensive brands and models like yours.  At least American consumers are getting their money's worth from the cheap foreign labor. 

It's pathetic for upstart companies to manufacture products in countries with slave labor wages [w/o guilt].  Then, turn around to sell them at luxury prices.  It's sticking it to consumers.  How?  With spiffy designs, colors, and false/exaggerated claims.  Based on the falling market share for your fave brand in the UK, the Brits agree.  Won't be long and the Americans too!  How much will dyson bonuses be then?  

Carmine D.

Hello DIB:

Thanks for posting the article/press release from 1998.  Very interesting, especially when put in perspective.  

Banner sales/profit years, tho rarely mentioned by companies, are tied to the economy.  From 1998 and up thru 2000, the US economy was fueled by the hi-tech industry.  [As the article notes, HOOVER launched its internet site in 1998].  The hi-techs were fueling a rapid, some might say rabid unsustainable, economic growth in the USA.  Creating wealth.  Until the bubble burst in 2000.  How?  By greed and excess.  Paying exorbitant bonuses and salaries to the tech employees.   

Since the tech bubble burst, enormous growth in the US housing market fueled banner profit years for companies.  Until it tanked in 2007/2008.  Companies rarely credit their success to the economy.  But are quick to blame bad times for dismal years.  Why? It diminishes their business acumen.  Much sexier to say innovations/advances produce success.  True in good times, but not so in bad. 

Carmine D.