Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

The 'Freedom' and 'Slalom' uprights, and the 'Xarion' cylinder cleaner. All employ 'Airvolution' technology.

You'll have to wander about the Argos site yourselves, as I can't be bothered battling with the silly formatting of pictures on this forum, and the website linking didn't work either.

HARDSELL wrote:

H.S. you make my day.

To quote a friend of mine in the business,do you really care how it does it as long as its does?

And do i have to really go through a big long story that doesnt mean anything?

I am somewhat of a bullxxxxxxx myself but will take the time out to listen to a real professional, please carry on.........

have a nice day Mr D.O.E.

MOLE

CarmineD wrote:

Thanks Carmine.

Venson

CarmineD wrote:

The principle is similar to Dyson's Root Cyclone Technology, but instead of five or seven small cyclones (as on the Dyson uprights) or the ten or twelve as fitted to the Dyson cylinders, there are twelve small cyclones fitted to both the Hoover uprights and cylinders.

The Hoover blurb mentions something about balanced airflow, and seems to show the rising airflow being split into two streams to feed two small cyclones. I presume that the airflow is divided up before it gets anywhere near the small cyclones. Maybe there are six main airflows that are then each split two ways. Who knows?

Dysons on the other hand, have a central rising airflow that is then split seven ways, or whatever number of cyclones are fitted.

p.s. 'Windtunnel Technology' cannot be used on UK Hoovers: the technology is used on the UK Vax machines.

Thanks Trilobite for the excellent descriptions of the technology.

Carmine D.

Hoover Candy invented nothing, although they did skirt Dyson's patents (maybe)... Look close to the Airvolutions animations (steps 2 and 3), you will see Dyson's technologies there. The high efficient filtration is almost a mirror copy of Dyson's DC08's high efficiency filtration. Not to mention the many other Dyson discoveries, Dyson firsts and/or what Dyson made popular and proved out a market... the clear bin, the fine dust collector and its location, the shroud, the bin being modular and removable, etc.

I say the high efficiency cyclones on the Airvolutions are hidden by design, because folks (especially in the UK) would realize yet again, Hoover Candy is copying.


DIB

http://www.hoover.co.uk/airvolution/

Just something to think about,since T.T.I. owns HOOVER and many dyson parts are T.T.I. made,does anyone believe that DYSON and T.T.I. are working jointly and HOOVER is part of the mix. Lets face it T.T.I is bigger than DYSON and HOOVER together.Its well know that dysons parts are outsoursed from T.T.I and others.

If using your thinking D.I.B would you go as far as saying DYSON stole the motor technology from rainbow/rexair thats been using the brusless motor computor controlled system since the E2 2 speed came out 5 years ago?????????????

MOLE

The new Hoover UK advert has been on for the Airvolution Slalom.

DC18

DysonInventsBig wrote:

The site is not functioning.

Carmine D.

mole wrote:
Mole,

Dyson is no fan of China taking American and British jobs.  I do not see where Dyson needs TTI or wants this.  A British backlash would be huge, he is an icon in the UK, he is much more than a manufacturer, aligning with a Chinese company would hurt him (IMO).


The DDM does 100,000 plus revolutions per minute, I know little of this Rainbow motor, but the lack of talk makes me believe Rainbow was out-invented.  And per the article Moose posted, James Dyson has even made his DDM smaller, which should shrink the size and weight of vacuums too.  The DDM vacuums price points are brutal, he needs to get his price down to sell more main stream (sell more product, IMO).        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Excuse me for chiming in here.  I have a few questions for you to consider/reconsider based on your above post.  You don't have to answer in a post, if you don't want. 

What do you consider Malays/Malaysia? 

Why do you think dyson's Engineering High School is getting the bureacratic blockade by the UK authorities and has since dyson announced its plans in 2005?  Wasn't it supposed to be done by now? 

Why has dyson's market share waned since 2004?  What is it now?  25 percent? 

If that's the way the UK and the Brits treat their national icons, then it's no wonder the American founding fathers broke away from the good King in 1776.

Carmine D.