Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Thank God for those who try.  I can't always give high scores in regard to the worth of their efforts but they do help to keep life interesitng.  And per the news link -- http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080926/0437655.html -- Bissell certainly is trying.

I can't find any information about the new Bissell Versus (see below) but the article states that HSN has it and that it will be in the hands of retailers this month.

Best,

Venson

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Thanks DIB.  Now, based on your comments, I will most definitely put one on my purchase list.  I think it will be a nice sidekick and spare user along with the Dirt Devil Kruz.  My granddaughters argue over using the Kruz to assist their Mother with the housecleaning.  The BISSELL Versus will be a good peace maker.

BTW, I wonder what some would think and say about putting a ball on a vacuum and wheelbarrow?

Carmine D.

I think as Carmine stated earlier, an adjustable "V" would work much better.  Parts of the nozzle could be detached, but I was thinking have the "wings" on pivots so they could be adjusted accordingly.  Except for cleaning around table legs and countertop corners, etc., the fixed V-shaped nozzle would be awkward to use near walls or for getting up close to edge-clean.

Motorhead wrote:

I don't know if it's still available but at one point there was an after-market nozzle that  had spring-loaded wings.  The wingssat straight out on either side but swung inward to conform to the area when pushed into corners.  Don't know how well they worked or if they were durable.  European Rowenta use a triangular, wedge-shaped nozzle with some of its canisters for a long time to make corner cleaning easier.

Venson

I love the wedge shaped nozzle, I use one off of an old Dirt Devil stick vac and use it on my canister wand.  It works great.  I have seen these winged nozzles in the patent filings.  Maybe a photo too.

Here is another silly Bissell way of doing things...  by adding more nozzle (adding one more blade to make up a V) thereby lessens suction, so here’s “the Bissell fix” add a heavier, louder, larger, and more expensive 12 amp motor than the lightweight traditional stick vacs.  Is there a big demand for heavy, clumsy sticks that cannot maneuver (as good as it’s competitors) and cannot fit or fit as easily into places as standard sticks?  What is Bissell thinking??        DIB

 Below is a photo from Bissell's website of their "Verses" hard floor vacuum...


Amazingly  Bissell demonstrates there nozzle cannot clean up to and squarely to a straight line (wall, furniture, etc.). I'm shaking my head in disbelief as to why the suits at Bissell produce and promote this vacuum as in advancement over standard vacuums. Standard vacuums can clean up to a straight edged wall or furniture, when Versus cannot.

 The Versus promo video tells Bissell's logic behind this "V" nozzle. Bissell believes funneling debris via a V shaped nozzle is an advancement. The problem is the filter clogs and loses suction strength. A vacuum with weak suction strength is the reason vacuums cannot suction floors adequately, so this, the real problem.  Bissell invented a "nozzle funneling" solution to a suction drop off problem.  Go figure.

DIB

Hello DIB:

WRT your last post, I understand your frustration.  I'm not fond of the design either unless and until it pivots on its axis to accomplish the normal edge cleaning too.  Perhaps this is a first attempt by BISSELL to patent rights for a new barefloor design/function.  With plans for future refining/modification to do just as I suggest.  In the meantime, the Versus tools on board have to suffice for users like me who intend to buy it.  BTW, it hasn't come yet to the big box store retailers in my area.  I'm thinking my young grand daughters will absolutely love using it!  As they do the DD Cruz.  [which BTW I saw hawked on HSN with a dyson DC14 earlier this year].

No offense to you, but many feel the same about a soccer sized ball wheel on a vacuum cleaner.  Wheel barrows are one thing.  But vacuums?  The maker provides a maneuverability solution by increasing the weight/mass/bulk of an existing vacuum's size.  Worsening the conditions that give rise to the maneuverability problems in vacuums in order to solve it.  Sounds oxymoronic, IMHO?

The age old adage applies: Where you stand depends on where you sit.  Similarly:  Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.  Didn't the inventor of the intermittent wipers call his creation the Mona Lisa?  Leonardo must have turned over in his grave!

Carmine D.

The V nozzle comes off so you can use it as a BOOMERANG,just a little added feature,keeps the cleaning person from getting bored.

HOW MANY DC15 DID DYSON SELL TODAY?????????????

MOLE

mole wrote:
 Hey mole,

 Maybe the boomerang should be used to throw at the Bissell suits. Heads should fly over this one.

 The DC15 spawned an entirely new segment and more profits for those vacuum manufacturers whose business model is to copy Dyson's inroads. In no way should Dyson throw this baby out with the bathwater. It can be made great!! And be made better than both the Miele and Hoover UK offerings.

DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hi DIB,

You're missing the spin here.  Notice the white arrows at the ends of the nozzle wings.  That would mean that a forward pass along a floor edge with the "wing tip" is meant to clean corners and along baseboards.  You turn the cleaner one way or another to clean the next floor edge.  Not  a practical idea but Best Buy has been talked into carrying the Versus online.  I'm curious to see who follows.  If they move, it means that you can sell anybody anything.  But . . . at 80-bucks it will prove of interest to the non-thinking because it's cheap.

Venson

Venson wrote:

Hi Venson:

Thanks for the tip on the "V" wing and the info about the BEST BUY Site and the Versus.  I agree with your above statement.  At $80 with TOB and bagless it's an easy sell over the internet and off shelves in a box.  BISSELL is borrowing a page from Dirt Devil which knows the sales beauty of vacuums priced at $50-$60.  Most people take them right off the shelf in a box and never scope out the displays.  The price sells it.  Add a gimmick and its a sure fire sales success.  Look at REGINA's Electrik Broom.  Sold millions.  Lightweight.  Cheap.  It couldn't even stand up by itself!

Carmine D.