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George
Joined: Aug 3, 2007
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Hoover Constellation
Original Message Dec 6, 2007 8:21 pm |
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Have any of you gentlemen heard anything about the performance on "New" Hoover Constellation. There seems to be more on Ebay to purchase then in the stores. It seems the novelty has worn off.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Hoover Constellation
Reply #10 Nov 23, 2008 7:16 am |
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Talking about HOOVER canisters, the Constellation is selling for $145 new. A host of HOOVER products are on sale as a year end clearance/inventory sale. The HOOVER WT Supreme is selling new for $100, regularly $150. Have to ask the local HOOVER store about the WT Supreme's price tho, since the discount is not reflected on the HOOVER Web Site. http://www.hoover.com/product.aspx?model=S3345&ds=true http://www.hoover.com/Product.aspx?model=U5468900&ds=false Carmine D.
This message was modified Nov 23, 2008 by CarmineD
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CarmineD
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Re: Hoover Constellation
Reply #13 Jun 11, 2009 1:19 pm |
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we have the stainless steel model at the shop...1 sold in 3 months..and just like the hoover z that also sits in our showroom,,[a couple yrs ],intresting to look at ..and thats it...i like the ideas behind them...edgy looks....,but in the end an okay looking vac with really good performance wins everytime..imo
Hello retardturtle1:
The "Connie" as HOOVER reps called them has a long storied and starried history unlike the HOOVER Z. I was surprised to see HOOVER reintroduce this model in 2005. The model in the ad is an 82 and does not have the "floats on air" feature which soon followed in the Constellations. Amazingly, with the large felt pre-motor filter in these old Constellations, the motor stayed clean and cool during operations. With all the these Connie models made over a generation of production years, I can't recall ever having one with a bad motor. Despite the users who improvised filters and/or didn't use one at all at times. Good suction for a straight suction cleaner and "wow" design that passed the test of time. Certainly a signature HOOVER canister model for the ages. Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Hoover Constellation
Reply #14 Jun 11, 2009 2:22 pm |
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Hello retardturtle1: The "Connie" as HOOVER reps called them has a long storied and starried history unlike the HOOVER Z. I was surprised to see HOOVER reintroduce this model in 2005. The model in the ad is an 82 and does not have the "floats on air" feature which soon followed in the Constellations. Amazingly, with the large felt pre-motor filter in these old Constellations, the motor stayed clean and cool during operations. With all the these Connie models made over a generation of production years, I can't recall ever having one with a bad motor. Despite the users who improvised filters and/or didn't use one at all at times. Good suction for a straight suction cleaner and "wow" design that passed the test of time. Certainly a signature HOOVER canister model for the ages. Carmine D. hi carmine
the hoover we have is the 700z ,the one that never sold yet the owner wont put it up on ebay..would rather let it oxidize i guess?...the const. at the the store kinda justs bumps into everything as u vac. ..not sure what kind of WOW factor i was expecting from the FLOATER..guess i was wanting to see it HOVER...guess i set myself up for that one tho...but i dont ever recall ever getting one in for service either...not once. ...
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Hoover Constellation
Reply #15 Jun 11, 2009 8:20 pm |
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hi carmine the hoover we have is the 700z ,the one that never sold yet the owner wont put it up on ebay..would rather let it oxidize i guess?...the const. at the the store kinda justs bumps into everything as u vac. ..not sure what kind of WOW factor i was expecting from the FLOATER..guess i was wanting to see it HOVER...guess i set myself up for that one tho...but i dont ever recall ever getting one in for service either...not once. ...
Hello retardturtle1:
The Z 700 is the deluxe model with the LED lights. The owner is waiting for someone to come in and specifically ask for the Z, then he'll command top dollar for it! For its time, the early fifties, the global shape of the Connie was a wow factor. It was futuristic. Some early ads even called it the 'flying machine." The double stretch hose with telescopic wands were new. It was in my opinion the first popular selling vacuum that sold on looks. Suction wise it was decent. By all measures it was a fad because most vacuum buyers were hooked on uprights. The floatation system on the Connie would have been better served with a sensor to avoid collisions with furniture and walls. But no such thing existed for vacuums at the time so the best substitute was the large full wrap around bumper in the middle of the vacuum. Easy to work on. Rarely required any service save a new hose, switch, cord, filter and bag. All inexpensive on most Connie's except the 87 which has an electric hose with a switch on the hose end. Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Hoover Constellation
Reply #16 Jun 11, 2009 10:23 pm |
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Hello retardturtle1: The Z 700 is the deluxe model with the LED lights. The owner is waiting for someone to come in and specifically ask for the Z, then he'll command top dollar for it! For its time, the early fifties, the global shape of the Connie was a wow factor. It was futuristic. Some early ads even called it the 'flying machine." The double stretch hose with telescopic wands were new. It was in my opinion the first popular selling vacuum that sold on looks. Suction wise it was decent. By all measures it was a fad because most vacuum buyers were hooked on uprights. The floatation system on the Connie would have been better served with a sensor to avoid collisions with furniture and walls. But no such thing existed for vacuums at the time so the best substitute was the large full wrap around bumper in the middle of the vacuum. Easy to work on. Rarely required any service save a new hose, switch, cord, filter and bag. All inexpensive on most Connie's except the 87 which has an electric hose with a switch on the hose end. Carmine D. hi carmine.
a few strips of led lights on the floater here and there..along the circular bottom might be a pretty cool addition...that would add some pop to it.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Hoover Constellation
Reply #17 Jun 12, 2009 6:53 am |
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hi carmine. a few strips of led lights on the floater here and there..along the circular bottom might be a pretty cool addition...that would add some pop to it.
Hi retardturtle1:
I like that. You have the makings of a new age vacuum cleaner designer, erhh, I mean engineer. On the old Connies, 4 screws less than a 1/2 inch long [agitator brush screws] held the entire machine together including the motor mounted in an inverted position with the commutator end of the motor frame at the bottom. Simple design and function. The motor's fans were directly under the pre-motor filter and paper bag drawing the expelled bag air circulating around in the huge half globe bag compartment directly into the motor cavity for motor cooling. An important feature. Why? With the vacuum's weight atop the exhaust [for floatation] the Connie motors would have a predisposition to overheat. Never did if bag and filter were maintained properly. Excellent bypass motor design despite the added imposition going back over 50 years. Carmine D.
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retardturtle1
Joined: May 16, 2009
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Re: Hoover Constellation
Reply #18 Jun 12, 2009 1:27 pm |
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Hi retardturtle1: I like that. You have the makings of a new age vacuum cleaner designer, erhh, I mean engineer. On the old Connies, 4 screws less than a 1/2 inch long [agitator brush screws] held the entire machine together including the motor mounted in an inverted position with the commutator end of the motor frame at the bottom. Simple design and function. The motor's fans were directly under the pre-motor filter and paper bag drawing the expelled bag air circulating around in the huge half globe bag compartment directly into the motor cavity for motor cooling. An important feature. Why? With the vacuum's weight atop the exhaust [for floatation] the Connie motors would have a predisposition to overheat. Never did if bag and filter were maintained properly. Excellent bypass motor design despite the added imposition going back over 50 years. Carmine D. hi carmine you would think that because of the possibility of overheating the motor,despite the 'dome' of air ..that they would add a small cooling fan...just in case....i say this because ive heard that back in the day is when stuff was built to last....quality over quantity.
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