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Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
Points: 121

New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Original Message   Aug 4, 2008 3:49 pm
The 'Freedom' and 'Slalom' uprights, and the 'Xarion' cylinder cleaner. All employ 'Airvolution' technology.

You'll have to wander about the Argos site yourselves, as I can't be bothered battling with the silly formatting of pictures on this forum, and the website linking didn't work either.

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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #58   Sep 12, 2008 8:45 pm
Hi Trilo,

I'm impressed that they stuck out their necks regarding the 97% separation claim.  I wish them well.

Best,

Venson

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #59   Sep 13, 2008 6:43 am
I enjoyed the play on the name HOOVER and 100 years.  Very clever and eye catching marketing with a definite point which it makes very well.

Carmine D.

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Venson


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Points: 1900

Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #60   Oct 2, 2008 6:52 pm
Hi,

Here's a link to an October 1st article announcing a TV ad that "unveils" the Hoover Air-Volution series.

http://iclanarkshire.icnetwork.co.uk/reformer/news//tm_headline=new-lines-launch&method=full&objectid=21932579&siteid=50144-name_page.html

Venson

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #61   Oct 3, 2008 7:11 am
Thanks Venson,

HOOVER UK is right to promote these aggressively.  I suspect they will be very huge sellers among cost conscious vacuum buyers on a budget.  May even catapult HOOVER UK vacuum sales to the lead and ahead of others.

Would anyone care to explain the physics of Air-Volution!  Let's see:  Is it Cyclonic and/or Centrifugal?  Maybe it's a Wind Tunnel?  None of the above?  Shucks, scrub the terms.  Does it pick up household dirt on all surfaces quickly and easily with no fuss and no bother so their users can get on with their daily lives?  Now, IMHO that's the real test of vacuums' success not just words/terms that change with time and usage. 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #62   Oct 3, 2008 8:09 am
CarmineD wrote:
Thanks Venson,

HOOVER UK is right to promote these aggressively.  I suspect they will be very huge sellers among cost conscious vacuum buyers on a budget.  May even catapult HOOVER UK vacuum sales to the lead and ahead of others.

Would anyone care to explain the physics of Air-Volution!  Let's see:  Is it Cyclonic and/or Centrifugal?  Maybe it's a Wind Tunnel?  None of the above?  Shucks, scrub the terms.  Does it pick up household dirt on all surfaces quickly and easily with no fuss and no bother so their users can get on with their daily lives?  Now that's the real test not just words. 

Carmine D.



The real test will be:  CAN IT PICK UP BAKING SODA ON A HARD SURFACE. 

Have a great day Mr. C.

mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #63   Oct 3, 2008 9:17 am
HARDSELL wrote:
The real test will be:  CAN IT PICK UP BAKING SODA ON A HARD SURFACE. 

Have a great day Mr. C.


H.S. you make my day.

To quote a friend of mine in the business,do you really care how it does it as long as its does?

And do i have to really go through a big long story that doesnt mean anything?

I am somewhat of a bullxxxxxxx myself but will take the time out to listen to a real professional, please carry on.........

have a nice day Mr D.O.E.

MOLE

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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #64   Oct 3, 2008 10:54 am
CarmineD wrote:
. . . Does it pick up household dirt on all surfaces quickly and easily with no fuss and no bother so their users can get on with their daily lives?  Now, IMHO that's the real test of vacuums' success not just words/terms that change with time and usage. 

Carmine D.


Thanks Carmine.

Venson

Trilobite


Joined: Nov 7, 2007
Points: 121

Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #65   Oct 4, 2008 4:49 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Thanks Venson,

HOOVER UK is right to promote these aggressively.  I suspect they will be very huge sellers among cost conscious vacuum buyers on a budget.  May even catapult HOOVER UK vacuum sales to the lead and ahead of others.

Would anyone care to explain the physics of Air-Volution!  Let's see:  Is it Cyclonic and/or Centrifugal?  Maybe it's a Wind Tunnel?  None of the above?  Shucks, scrub the terms.  Does it pick up household dirt on all surfaces quickly and easily with no fuss and no bother so their users can get on with their daily lives?  Now, IMHO that's the real test of vacuums' success not just words/terms that change with time and usage. 

Carmine D.


The principle is similar to Dyson's Root Cyclone Technology, but instead of five or seven small cyclones (as on the Dyson uprights) or the ten or twelve as fitted to the Dyson cylinders, there are twelve small cyclones fitted to both the Hoover uprights and cylinders.

The Hoover blurb mentions something about balanced airflow, and seems to show the rising airflow being split into two streams to feed two small cyclones. I presume that the airflow is divided up before it gets anywhere near the small cyclones. Maybe there are six main airflows that are then each split two ways. Who knows?

Dysons on the other hand, have a central rising airflow that is then split seven ways, or whatever number of cyclones are fitted.

p.s. 'Windtunnel Technology' cannot be used on UK Hoovers: the technology is used on the UK Vax machines.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #66   Oct 4, 2008 7:08 pm
Thanks Trilobite for the excellent descriptions of the technology.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #67   Oct 5, 2008 1:00 pm
Hoover Candy invented nothing, although they did skirt Dyson's patents (maybe)... Look close to the Airvolutions animations (steps 2 and 3), you will see Dyson's technologies there. The high efficient filtration is almost a mirror copy of Dyson's DC08's high efficiency filtration. Not to mention the many other Dyson discoveries, Dyson firsts and/or what Dyson made popular and proved out a market... the clear bin, the fine dust collector and its location, the shroud, the bin being modular and removable, etc.

I say the high efficiency cyclones on the Airvolutions are hidden by design, because folks (especially in the UK) would realize yet again, Hoover Candy is copying.


DIB

http://www.hoover.co.uk/airvolution/
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