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CarmineD
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #47 Sep 3, 2008 7:06 pm |
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Hello Venson: Terrific. But, where does the dirt go? And how does the user empty? And the all important question: Price? Wondering too based on UK bagless product experience, if the friction vacuum cleaner price will be a premium due to the lack of electricity costs? Like the premium bagless price for the lack of bag costs!!!! Carmine D.
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Venson
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #48 Sep 3, 2008 8:48 pm |
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Hello Venson: Terrific. But, where does the dirt go? Carmine D.
Hi Carmine,
I wondered about that myself. I guess he's getting around to that. Just a plain old shake-out dust bag would be kind of anticlimactic. Gotta have a big finish. As for the price -- who knows what the mark-up for genius is when all "new" may mean is re-emerged doo-dads so old that only a few will remember. Anyway . . . Back in the day -- the 1940's and earlier -- when electricity was not fully accessible to some rural areas., friction vacuum cleaners and gasoline powered washing machines may have been seen as great to have by those who couldn't avail themselves of fancier electric devices. Best, Venson
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Motorhead
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #49 Sep 3, 2008 11:19 pm |
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Hello Trilobite: A similar make/model in the USA is probably called the "Tuec." Hand powered with a fan for suction. Very rare. One vacuum collector, Jim Kirby, [related to the founder of the famous vacuum and who unfortunately no longer posts here] made mention of it to me privately and on several vacuum Forums. It was indigenous to Ohio, if I recall correctly, much like the pre-electric hand pump sweepers were indigenous to local areas with metal factories/foundries across the US in early 20th Century. And too, many of the non-BISSELL hand powered carpet sweepers which were made/marketed out of wood in local geograhical areas throughout the USA in the late 1800's and early 1900's. BTW, in the USA, HOOVER did not use the term Junior [which appeared on the name plate of the UK HOOVER]. Instead 'Baby' and 'Apartment size' were the terms used by HOOVER going back to the first baby HOOVER model in the 20's, the 105. And for the model 115 in the USA made in 1949 [US version of the UK model 119]. Carmine D. Actually, they did, as early as the 1910's, alongside the "Baby", "Hooverette", "Senior", and so forth. The Junior (a misnomer in this regard) was still a full-sized upright (12" cleaning width) but intended for smaller homes. The Senior was considerably wider (15"). Then of course came the Junior 115 in the 1940's. After that, I do not believe the Junior name was applied to any later cleaners, even though the actual Juniors were sold here in the 1970's...those I believe were referred to as lightweight uprights, or apartment size cleaners. -MH
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CarmineD
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #50 Sep 4, 2008 6:38 am |
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MH: Come to think about it, you're right. HOOVER used the "Junior" designation in magazine ads for the 115, tho I must say in the vacuum industry jargon, 'Baby' and/or 'Apartment' size was more prevalent. Lightweight was the description name often used for the HOOVER 'Larks' models 12 and 14 which were downsized versions of the HOOVER upright models of the day. Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #52 Sep 4, 2008 4:31 pm |
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Was the 115 hoover strickly a shake out bag or have the optional paper insert? MOLE
Hello Mole:
Original equipment on the HOOVER 115 was the cloth bag and bag slide. Several parts' suppliers made after market zipper units with F&G paper bags to fit the 115. To my knowledge, HOOVER never offered the paper bag option in the 115 even as after market. Paper was offered as standard equipment, however, on the HOOVER Larks models 12 and 14, which took the HOOVER C [convertible] paper bags. Carmine D.
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mole
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #53 Sep 5, 2008 9:15 am |
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Thanks Carmine. Was the lark a popular seller? Out of all the HOOVERS i have serviced this model was the most elusive was the color burgundy? Mole
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CarmineD
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #54 Sep 5, 2008 12:21 pm |
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Thanks Carmine. Was the lark a popular seller? Out of all the HOOVERS i have serviced this model was the most elusive was the color burgundy? Mole Hello MOLE:
Your welcome. The Larks were not real popular sellers for HOOVER. I would say the HOOVER 115 is/was more prevalent than the HOOVER 12 and 14 [aka: Larks]. The 12 was burgundy [maroon] like the HOOVER 29. BTW, the HOOVER 29 came with a cloth/paper bag [the reusable HOOVER paper like that used in the 60/61/62]. The HOOVER Lark 14 was white with blue trim. The Larks used full size HOOVER agitators like their HOOVER counterparts. But lighter and smaller in size and weight than the full size HOOVER models. Performed well. As I recall, Jim Kirby's family replaced a HOOVER model 25/26 [?] with a HOOVER Lark and they were pleased with the results. HOOVER just had too many models available in the 1940/50's IMHO and all of them lasted for a generation/more easily. Consequently, some models, especially niche ones like the Larks, came and went without alot of fanfare. BTW, in the early 60's HOOVER revived the Lark name for it's first stick vacuum cleaner. The colors were two tone light and dark blue. The same blue as the trim color on the model 14. Carmine D.
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Trilobite
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #55 Sep 6, 2008 2:52 pm |
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Venson
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #56 Sep 6, 2008 4:40 pm |
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Thanks for the URL Trilobite. The price looks nice too as the price on the allergy version equates to about $265.00 in our currency. A first for me, one of the models smal turbo nozzles is listed as being made of plastic that contains silver ions. An interesting change, as LG had instead used this kind of material to make just the dust bin of at least one of its bagless canisters a while back. Germ killing claims are the same for both. I want to check back at the Comet website in a week or two to see if any customer reviews are posted. Thanks again. Venson
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