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HARDSELL
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #107 Oct 25, 2008 6:46 pm |
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Hi HS: Nice to see you still keep a sense of humor when confronted with the truth even if it hurts. But humor doesn't change the facts. W/O the 2 lawsuit proceeds dyson as you know it today would not be. Remember also that BEST BUY Execs convinced James to launch dyson vacuums in the USA in 2002. Dyson wanted to wait a year or more. Fortunately for dyson, James trusted BB's business judgement and timing over his own. The less expensive competition [knock-offs as DIB calls them] is carving away steadliy at new dyson sales with a host of worthy affordable bagless contenders: BISSELL, VAX, TTI and HOOVER UK. Especially in today's economic hard times. Add to the fray now, MIELE with a bagged versus bagless matchup on the big box stores' turfs! The vacuum industry has the makings of a potential one-two knock out punch delivered against the highest priced bagless brand: your very own dyson. Plus the latest two ASA rulings which have clearly put dyson in a very low industry standing: Losing to less expensive Electrolux Infinity and TTI/VAX models. I trust you and DIB will still be around to act as pallbearers at the funeral. Carmine D. You have more of experience as a pallbearer. Rember all those dead hoovers. What type urn are the Z9 ashes in?
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #108 Oct 25, 2008 7:05 pm |
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #109 Oct 25, 2008 8:56 pm |
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Hello HS: Sadly your facts are askew. MAYTAG, owner of HOOVER, sold out to TTI. HOOVER was bought up by TTI. There is a difference. MAYTAG management not HOOVER is culpable. The $2.1 BILLION price tag paid for HOOVER plus assumption of all its outstanding liabilities [including health and pension costs of the employees] speaks highly of the HOOVER brand name and its products. Not many companies in the industry, save TTI, could come up with this dollar amount, either in cash/financing and both. Dyson on the other hand over-engineers and over-prices its products. Remember it wasn't business acumen that catapulted dyson to success. It was winning 2 lawsuits and using the proceeds thereof to expand and export. The current economic conditions make dyson vulnerable to competitors like HOOVER UK, TTI Floorcare of Glenwillow Ohio, and BISSELL. Dyson can't compete in hard times. It doesn't have the right product mix and prices. Carmine D. Hardsell, As usual, the facts differ ever so slightly than Carmines many claims  . I have the TTI press release on their purchase of Hoover and getting through the monopoly hurdles. The sale of the company became greater than preventing a monopoly and all the downsides that go along with that. DIB http://mynetimages.com/f7a9f49c.gif
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #110 Oct 26, 2008 7:11 am |
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Hello DIB: It's unreadable and can't be enlarged. BTW you may want to read the TTI/HOOVER innvovations on the site posted by TTIpowerT. Amazing how the vacuum industry survived and flourished for so many years with such lazy companies! Hello HS: I suggest you view the Web Site too ..............and keep that unused urn ready. It will come in handy. Wouldn't it be ironic if TTI Floorcare Glenwillow OHIO buys HOOVER UK and consolidates the brand back to the way it use to be! What better present to celebrate/commemorate the HOOVER Centenial !Time will tell. Carmine D.
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dusty
Joined: Feb 8, 2008
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #111 Oct 26, 2008 10:29 am |
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Hello DIB: It's unreadable and can't be enlarged. BTW you may want to read the TTI/HOOVER innvovations on the site posted by TTIpowerT. Amazing how the vacuum industry survived and flourished for so many years with such lazy companies! A web link instead..... http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1776 Dusty
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #112 Oct 26, 2008 1:19 pm |
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A web link instead.....
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1776
Dusty Here is the TTI file (PDF) - "...Will Combine Hoover with Dirt Devil Creating Largest Floor Care Business in North America." http://www.keepitamerican.biz/documents/TTI%20aquires%20Hoover.pdf
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DysonInventsBig
Location: USA
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #113 Oct 26, 2008 1:56 pm |
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Wouldn't it be ironic if TTI Floorcare Glenwillow OHIO buys HOOVER UK and consolidates the brand back to the way it use to be! What better present to celebrate/commemorate the HOOVER Centenial !Time will tell. Carmine D. Carmine, Hoover as you knew it and as history books recorded it is DEAD. It is now red... communist red or at least red sponsored. DIB
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #114 Oct 26, 2008 2:04 pm |
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Hello DIB: It's unreadable and can't be enlarged. BTW you may want to read the TTI/HOOVER innvovations on the site posted by TTIpowerT. Amazing how the vacuum industry survived and flourished for so many years with such lazy companies! Carmine D. Carmine, Do tell... Please point out the [many] problem solving patentable innovation/s Red Hoover has turned out (invented in-house). DIB
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: New UK Hoover ranges at www.argos.co.uk
Reply #116 Oct 26, 2008 5:10 pm |
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Carmine,
Hoover as you knew it and as history books recorded it is DEAD. It is now red... communist red or at least red sponsored.
DIB Carmine,
Do tell...
Please point out the [many] problem solving patentable innovation/s Red Hoover has turned out (invented in-house).
DIB Hello DIB:
If you are talking about "Boss" HOOVER and his family members, they are deceased. Corporations don't die. People die. I suspect that is the prime reason the HOOVER family sold to MAYTAG. So the HOOVER brand and its products, as a publicly owned corporation, would have perpetual life. As it does under the umbrella of TTI Floorcare, Glenwillow, OHIO, USA, which is celebrating HOOVER's Centennial. To answer your second post, read the FACT SHEET on HOOVER Innovations which is posted by TTIpowerT. It does a much better job than I can do, since my memory is very fuzzy going back 100 years. Carmine D.
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So................I restate: Whirlpool "sold out" to the TTI Group which "bought up" HOOVER. My sincerest apologies to all who were offended by my use of HOOVER rather than MAYTAG and MAYTAG rather than Whirlpool.