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Venson


Joined: Jul 22, 2007
Points: 1900

Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Original Message   Jul 28, 2008 1:51 pm
Hi,

Stopped at the Hoover Company website to look for the new upright MH mentioned.  Didn't find it but I was pleasantly surprised to discover that Hoover's made a serious attempt at a canister vacuum.  So serious in fact it seems to have borrowed a few things already done by Miele but what's wrong with that?  Nice thing is that the price on the website is only $299 and the machine comes with a three-year warranty.  It uses the Wind Tunnel power nozzle (Mole will probably know this nozzle's  repair record and efficiency). It might be the answer for some of the folks looking for a canister under the $400 mark.

I've included the following link to allow interested parties to browse the cleaner's user guide -- http://www.hoover.com/pdfs/manuals/S3670.pdf

Best,

Venson

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 30, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Reply #3   Jul 28, 2008 3:47 pm
Hi Venson:

This is one of 6 HOOVER Centennial Anniversary vacuum editions.  Latest count is 4 uprights and 2 canisters.  Originally, I thought there were 3 anniversary editions.  Then I thought there were 5.  Nothing special.  Just the HOOVER traditionals [pre-TTI takeover] with some extra finishes added .  Now number 6, a totally new looking canister.  Looks like a winner regardless of the maker. 

I haven't seen these in any of the big box stores yet.  I suspect they will come after the Labor Day and back to school sales.  By the time the Christmas Holiday sales season starts.

It appears after one year, that TTI and HOOVER have a mutually agreeable and profitable relationship based on the product mix and prices. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jul 28, 2008 by CarmineD
Venson


Joined: Jul 22, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Reply #4   Jul 28, 2008 5:10 pm
dusty wrote:
Geez, I'd almost put money on that being made by Tacony.  Sure looks like a Riccar Pristine to me.

Dusty


Hi Dusty,

You may be right.  Link to the Pristine manual is here --- http://www.riccar.com/ftp/whitepapers/Pristine_OwnersManual_3.07.pdf

The all swivel caster set-up is similar.  The hose connection is slightly different and Riccar offers a fancier three-in-one tool.  Do you know the difference in price?

Best,

Venson

Venson


Joined: Jul 22, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Reply #5   Jul 28, 2008 5:13 pm
mole wrote:
Hi Venson,

WOW what a deal this is,looks like a miele 500 series canister with a hoover quadraflex powerhead,with a mutated elbow, this might be the best vacuum for the money on the planet.

I might even want to sell hoover again........................................................


MOLE



Hiya Mole,

I'm most impressed with the three-year warranty.  I'd sure give on a go if I needed another vacuum right now.  Can you give us the skinny on the power nozzle?

Venson

Venson


Joined: Jul 22, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Reply #6   Jul 28, 2008 5:18 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Venson:

This is one of 6 HOOVER Centennial Anniversary vacuum editions.  Latest count is 4 uprights and 2 canisters.  Originally, I thought there were 3 anniversary editions.  Then I thought there were 5.  Nothing special.  Just the HOOVER traditionals [pre-TTI takeover] with some extra finishes added .  Now number 6, a totally new looking canister.  Looks like a winner regardless of the maker. 

I haven't seen these in any of the big box stores yet.  I suspect they will come after the Labor Day and back to school sales.  By the time the Christmas Holiday sales season starts.

It appears after one year, that TTI and HOOVER have a mutually agreeable and profitable relationship based on the product mix and prices. 

Carmine D.



Hi Carmine,

Do you think the price, certainly reasonable, is the makers way of mking friends for this machine?  Except for the lack of a doo-dad or two it is very similar to my Miele S5890 and think, though not sure, it employs filtrete style bags.  At $299, I'd think, yes, it's got to be a winner.

Venson

Venson


Joined: Jul 22, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Reply #7   Jul 28, 2008 5:30 pm
Me again,

For comparison's sake, here's a link to the user guide for the Miele S5980 -- http://www.miele.com/manuals_pdf/Residential/Vacuums/S5980_us.pdf

Venson

dusty


Joined: Feb 7, 2008
Points: 264

Re: Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Reply #8   Jul 28, 2008 5:31 pm
Venson wrote:
Hi Dusty,

You may be right.  Link to the Pristine manual is here --- http://www.riccar.com/ftp/whitepapers/Pristine_OwnersManual_3.07.pdf

The all swivel caster set-up is similar.  The hose connection is slightly different and Riccar offers a fancier three-in-one tool.  Do you know the difference in price?

Best,

Venson


Wands and the quick release on the powerhead are similar to Riccar as well.  Biggest difference seems to be the use of the Dirt Devil hand grip on the hose and of course the windtunnel powerhead.  HEPA filter seems to be the same as the Pristine as well.  There would be quite a price difference between this and the Riccar all though the latter offers a 7 year motor warranty and what I would consider a better quality powerhead.

Dusty
Venson


Joined: Jul 22, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Reply #9   Jul 28, 2008 5:58 pm
dusty wrote:
Wands and the quick release on the powerhead are similar to Riccar as well.  Biggest difference seems to be the use of the Dirt Devil hand grip on the hose and of course the windtunnel powerhead.  HEPA filter seems to be the same as the Pristine as well.  There would be quite a price difference between this and the Riccar all though the latter offers a 7 year motor warranty and what I would consider a better quality powerhead.

Dusty



Hi again Dusty,

Point well noted.  CR did test the WindTunnel bagless canister which has a similarly designed WindTunnel power nozzle.  It rated above average for carpet cleaning and good at at getting up pet hair against higher scores by other machine in that area.  Yet, I would think the S3670 would suffice for a lot of folks.  Miele, for instance, has never been rated for raising Cain when it comes to carpet cleaning but I find mine to be just what the doctor ordered.

The Kenmore Progressive I was using has a power nozzle very similar to Riccar's but between the Miele and the Kenmore I have yet to find enough difference for significant issue.  They both perform well.

Venson

mole


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Re: Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Reply #10   Jul 29, 2008 3:08 am
Venson wrote:
Hiya Mole,

I'm most impressed with the three-year warranty.  I'd sure give on a go if I needed another vacuum right now.  Can you give us the skinny on the power nozzle?

Venson


Yo Venson,

The powernozzle is most defenatly a Hoover  Quadraflex System, super aggresive set up, hope its a lot quieter than previous models, it will absolutly clean and groom in typical hoover fashion.The durability factor will come into play [not very rugged] if they got the harmonics taken care of it should not rattle itself apart in a years time,

It looks like MIELE ,TTI, TACONY, BOSCH , had a little get together and morphed into a vacuum cleaner, i must say they have some nice looking children,

On A side note,the talk in the industry is that this was going to happen about 3 or 4 years ago,all the companies joined together and all the machines look like little clones of each other, it has come to fruitation after seeing this HOOVER offering,

The only hold out is AERUS/ELECTROLUX, still a tank style,the only one left,[royal and airways tanks are gone],

MOLE
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 30, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Reply #11   Jul 29, 2008 4:02 am
Venson wrote:
Hi Carmine,

Do you think the price, certainly reasonable, is the makers way of mking friends for this machine?  Except for the lack of a doo-dad or two it is very similar to my Miele S5890 and think, though not sure, it employs filtrete style bags.  At $299, I'd think, yes, it's got to be a winner.

Venson


Hi Venson:

Always the vacuum idealist of yore, my hopes and desires are that the HOOVER TTI canns, at this price/higher [with some doo dads added] and 3 year warranty, will be for the indy stores and not the big box stores venues.  For budget conscious vacuum buyers, peeved by the low-high priced junk vacuums in all the big box stores, who are not quite ready to spring for $500 plus brands [the baby boomers], this would be a likely choice.

Questions based on MOLE's response about the HOOVER power nozzle [quadraflex]:  Is it a metal agitator?  Is this the same one that HOOVER uses on the Dimension CV?

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jul 29, 2008 by CarmineD
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 30, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Hoover S3670 canister . . .
Reply #12   Jul 29, 2008 4:47 am
mole wrote:
Yo Venson,


It looks like MIELE ,TTI, TACONY, BOSCH , had a little get together and morphed into a vacuum cleaner, i must say they have some nice looking children,


MOLE


Time to kick some big box stores' butts for vacuum sales.  Couldn't come at a better time!  The Revenge of the Indy Vacuum Stores.  Do I hear buzz of a movie in the future?

Carmine D.

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