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ElvisPresley


Joined: Jul 26, 2008
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Best canister for under $500
Original Message   Jul 26, 2008 11:06 pm
Ready to get rid of my 10 year old Kenmore. It's been good to me, although I've had to fix it (myself) a numer of times--and I'm dissapointed they still haven't fixed the shotty quaity--like the plastic parts tha break on everyone hoe connections

Considering dyson dc21 (and buying the smal powerhead, which is important to me--I've got two sets of carpeted stairs) Also found good reports on  the high-end kenmore bagless.

I'm not tied to bagless, though. I would consider a riccar, miele, or bosch..... Hepa is important to me. reliability is very important. but performance on different piles of carpet  AND hardwood THE MOST IMPORTANT.  And yes, it has to be a canister.

THANKS SO MUCH IN ADVANCE!

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dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264

Re: Best canister for under $500
Reply #10   Jul 28, 2008 1:30 pm
CarmineD wrote
IMH, the Electrolux Oxygen is a better buy than the dyson DC21 in all ways save one, the warranty.  It's cord length is 21 foot [with a cord winder which the DC21 lacks] and has an 11 foot hose for a max cleaning range of 32 feet.  That is bests the DC21 range by about 4 feet.  It's 14 to 22 pounds [depending on the model] vice 23 pounds for the DC21.  It's bag capacity is one half gallon [2 quarts] vice the 0.44 gallon for the DC21.  The Electrolux power nozzle for carpet cleaning has an adjustment for rug heights.  The dyson DC21 does not. 

The Electrolux warranty is 2 years vice the dyson DC21 which is 5 years.  Price is $400 for the Electrolux vice $500 for the dyson DC21.  A 20 percent coupon, very common, from BED BATH and BEYOND can match the Electrolux price on the DC21.  Sales at KOHL's, using the discount and store credit card, for purchase can match the dyson DC21 price on the Electrolux Oxygen. 



While Carmines comparison stats are correct,  the Electrolux despite it's consumer rating is also very troublesome in the hose, wand, and powerhead areas.  While the machine is soundly made everything else on the unit is a step down in quality especially the wands (electrical issues and prone to breakage) and powerhead (can be overly noisy and prone to break belts and necks).  The paper bags that came standard with the unit clogged quickly and needed to be changed often but that can be aleviated somewhat by using the more expensive "Clinic" bags. Personally I'd look for a Riccar 1500P at a local dealer but if you must buy online I would tend to lean towards the DC21 or even save yourself some more money and look at the Eureka 6500...it's very similar to the Electrolux ,costs far less and for whatever reason seems to have less issues.  As a warranty depot for Eureka / Electrolux it's suprising how much more of the Lux product we see.

Dusty
mole


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Re: Best canister for under $500
Reply #11   Jul 28, 2008 4:52 pm
You know Dusty you are right on the money about the oxygen, having also repaired many i see the same problems as you stated,wands,elbows,hose handles,smallish insert[bag],I get asked about this machine a lot,
To be nice about it, I tell the customer the machine itself is not too bad,but the attachments are horrible. THE SUCTION AND FILTRATION IS TOP NOTCH,but the cleaning set makes the whole product look bad.

Another note of intrest is that we tell the customer its not the same ELECTROLUX or company that your mother and aunties had.You should see the response to this,its hysterical.

And then the real fun starts.................

The bosch formula is about the best 500.00 value out there.Of course you can pay 500.00 more for a miele S5 series and  get nothing more except a longer cord and a vacuum that is used as a status symbol........


MOLE
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Best canister for under $500
Reply #12   Jul 28, 2008 5:40 pm
mole wrote:

The bosch formula is about the best 500.00 value out there.Of course you can pay 500.00 more for a miele S5 series and  get nothing more except a longer cord and a vacuum that is used as a status symbol........


MOLE



Hello MOLE et al:

This is the BOSCH Formula Electro Duo HEPA BSG71360UC that you mentioned earlier in the thread.  It's rated by Consumer Reports [March 2008] right up there with the SEBO, MIELE, and RICCAR models that are $800 and $900 MSRP.  I would have to agree with you. It would definitely make my short list of best canister vacuums [at any price].  Here's a Web site for viewing:

http://www.boschappliances.com/kitchen-appliances-consumer-products_vacuums_canister-vacuums_formula.html

Good point about the Electrolux name.  Reading several of the reviews about the Oxygen, posters refer to the original Electrolux brand name in comparison comments.  Obviously not knowing that the rights to the name were sold back in 2000 [I believe].  And the original Electrolux is now Aerus.  Unfortunately, the famous words of the illustrious bard Wm. Shakespeare:  "A rose by any other name smells as sweet" does not apply to the Electrolux vacuums in this case!

Carmine D.

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ElvisPresley


Joined: Jul 26, 2008
Points: 11

Re: Best canister for under $500
Reply #13   Jul 28, 2008 5:52 pm
I appreciate everyone's help.
What about
http://stores.channeladvisor.com/GreatVacs/Vacuum%20Cleaners/Miele%20Vacuums/

or one of the others listed at this store?

Also, are some of the bags reuseable?

thanks!
ElvisPresley


Joined: Jul 26, 2008
Points: 11

Re: Best canister for under $500
Reply #14   Jul 28, 2008 6:03 pm
linen's and things has the bosch at 499--including a turbo upholstery brush. Plus, the sunday paper usually has 20% off coupons for that store. This seems like a winner. I will run it by "the boss".
-Ben
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Best canister for under $500
Reply #15   Jul 28, 2008 6:09 pm
ElvisPresley wrote:
I appreciate everyone's help.
What about
http://stores.channeladvisor.com/GreatVacs/Vacuum%20Cleaners/Miele%20Vacuums/

or one of the others listed at this store?

Also, are some of the bags reuseable?

thanks!

Hello EP:

These are not new.   Bags are not reusable.  But the capacity on the S548 is 4.5 quarts.  Over a gallon.  That's alot of dirt!

ElvisPresley wrote:

linen's and things has the bosch at 499--including a turbo upholstery brush. Plus, the sunday paper usually has 20% off coupons for that store. This seems like a winner. I will run it by "the boss".
-Ben


Excellent idea.  Go for it!

Carmine D. 

This message was modified Jul 28, 2008 by CarmineD
dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264

Re: Best canister for under $500
Reply #16   Jul 28, 2008 6:55 pm
mole wrote:
You know Dusty you are right on the money about the oxygen, having also repaired many i see the same problems as you stated,wands,elbows,hose handles,smallish insert[bag],I get asked about this machine a lot,
To be nice about it, I tell the customer the machine itself is not too bad,but the attachments are horrible. THE SUCTION AND FILTRATION IS TOP NOTCH,but the cleaning set makes the whole product look bad.


Back when these were sold with a Sweep and Groom head we used to sell off the powerhead for central vacs and put a Lindhaus head on the oxygen.  No problems, customer was always happy.

Dusty
mole


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Re: Best canister for under $500
Reply #17   Jul 28, 2008 7:08 pm
dusty wrote:
Back when these were sold with a Sweep and Groom head we used to sell off the powerhead for central vacs and put a Lindhaus head on the oxygen.  No problems, customer was always happy.

Dusty

Did the EUREKA version use the sweep @ groom powerhead, and the electrolux version used the sweedish version,now made by someone else,
 
Yes i could see the customer being real happy with the lindhaus,as you custom fitted together a great package for them,thank goodness the wands matched up............


MOLE
dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264

Re: Best canister for under $500
Reply #18   Jul 28, 2008 7:30 pm
mole wrote:
Did the EUREKA version use the sweep @ groom powerhead, and the electrolux version used the sweedish version,now made by someone else,
 
Yes i could see the customer being real happy with the lindhaus,as you custom fitted together a great package for them,thank goodness the wands matched up............


MOLE

Yes, it was the Eureka Oxygen with a quick release sweep and groom head and the Electrolux used a China made head..  Even with the sweep and groom the Oxygen was far superior to the heads that have been on the Electrolux's for the last couple years.  I know  that Lux is using Beams Q series head on their new machines, it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

Dusty
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Lucky1


Joined: Jan 2, 2008
Points: 271

Re: Best canister for under $500
Reply #19   Jul 29, 2008 10:31 am
ElvisPresley wrote:
I appreciate everyone's help.<BR>What about <BR>http://stores.channeladvisor.com/GreatVacs/Vacuum%20Cleaners/Miele%20Vacuums/<BR><BR>or one of the others listed at this store?<BR><BR>Also, are some of the bags reuseable?<BR><BR>thanks!

This place seems to be selling used products and the wording in their product description seems to be a little ummm "overly colorful" JMHO
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