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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC23
Reply #45 Jun 26, 2008 7:12 am |
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I will make the same observation regarding any brand that is sold thru box stores, not just Dyson. A look at Amazon.com finds every Hoover they carry deeply discounted off the MSRP. Same applies to Bissell. If your argument is that they don't command the same pricing at Dyson then check www.allergybegone.com and find all the Electrolux product discounted to death. As far as the DC16 not being reduced at those two websites, that is indeed true but a little searching finds Best Buy and many other retailers discounting the product. If deep discounts sounded the death bell for a brand of vacuums we'd all be using brooms and dustpans to clean with.
Dusty
Thank you Dusty for using observation and not theory. Here's the crux of the matter. All the dyson dealers in the past here bragged of dyson's MAP and price supports for product MSRP. You too. MOLE and I said it wouldn't last. All you need do is check the past vacuum history for big box retailers. In the big box venue, these retailers would force dyson to drop prices and like it. Or else. You and all the dyson fans argued that it would never happen with dyson. NEVER. Maybe on the old discontinued models [MAYBE] but not the new dyson stuff. WRONG. Discounts on everything dyson, new and old. Except the DC16 which will probably get scrubbed by dyson in the USA after they are all given away.
Dyson fans flip flop now and put dyson in the same category as all the big box vacuums. Hello! Thank you! Flip flop, flip flop when will it stop? You're late to the right side of the debate. MOLE and I told you this years ago. Didn't listen. Rookies! Carmine D.
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dusty
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Re: Dyson DC23
Reply #46 Jun 26, 2008 9:46 am |
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Thank you Dusty for using observation and not theory. Here's the crux of the matter. All the dyson dealers in the past here bragged of dyson's MAP and price supports for product MSRP. You too. MOLE and I said it wouldn't last. All you need do is check the past vacuum history for big box retailers. In the big box venue, these retailers would force dyson to drop prices and like it. Or else. You and all the dyson fans argued that it would never happen with dyson. NEVER. Maybe on the old discontinued models [MAYBE] but not the new dyson stuff. WRONG. Discounts on everything dyson, new and old. Except the DC16 which will probably get scrubbed by dyson in the USA after they are all given away. Dyson fans flip flop now and put dyson in the same category as all the big box vacuums. Hello! Thank you! Flip flop, flip flop when will it stop? You're late to the right side of the debate. MOLE and I told you this years ago. Didn't listen. Rookies! Carmine D. I have never thought of Dyson as anything more than a box store vacuum which is why we held off so long before bringing them in. When a vac is sold nationally in a box store environment you have to expect that price will not hold. I will point out however that for the 3 years Dyson has been in Canada pricing has stayed at MSRP for the most part. I have never bragged about Dysons MSRP or said price will never drop, I haven't been here long enough to get into those discussions. I will say the high price has been good for our industry because the customer now relates to a better vacuum costing $500-$700. It's much easier to sell Riccar, Miele etc when people have been inundated with advertising showing high price points than when they come in thinking a great quality vacuum is a $150 Dirt Devil. Dusty
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson DC23
Reply #47 Jun 26, 2008 6:14 pm |
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Hello Dusty: I could not have written your post better myself. I agree with everything you said about dyson being just another big box seller subject to all the pricing shananigans of the big box store models. I apologize to you for grouping you in with all the other dyson dealers who spouted the drivel that dyson was different. You obviously do not hold that position. My compliments. Dyson has done more to revitalize the vacuum industry in the USA by accident than all the other vacuum makers have done on purpose in the last 50 years. I've said this many times. But it's worth repeating for you who may not have read it before and others who have. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Dyson DC23
Reply #48 Jul 9, 2008 12:55 am |
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mole
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Re: Dyson DC23
Reply #50 Aug 3, 2008 8:37 am |
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Thank you Dusty for using observation and not theory. Here's the crux of the matter. All the dyson dealers in the past here bragged of dyson's MAP and price supports for product MSRP. You too. MOLE and I said it wouldn't last. All you need do is check the past vacuum history for big box retailers. In the big box venue, these retailers would force dyson to drop prices and like it. Or else. You and all the dyson fans argued that it would never happen with dyson. NEVER. Maybe on the old discontinued models [MAYBE] but not the new dyson stuff. WRONG. Discounts on everything dyson, new and old. Except the DC16 which will probably get scrubbed by dyson in the USA after they are all given away. Dyson fans flip flop now and put dyson in the same category as all the big box vacuums. Hello! Thank you! Flip flop, flip flop when will it stop? You're late to the right side of the debate. MOLE and I told you this years ago. Didn't listen. Rookies! Carmine D. IS THE AIRBLADE STILL AROUND? JUST WHAT THE WORLD NEEDED A HIGH TECH HAND DRYER, HOWS THE NEW HIGH PERFORMANCE NOSE CLIPPERS COMING.?, I HEAR IT USES A DYSON DDM MOTOR HOWS DYSONS CANADA OPERATIONS GOING,ARE THE CANADIANS FED UP WITH YOUR B.S. YET?. SELL,SELL,SELL. ARE THE DYSON REVIEWS IN ENGLISH OR FRENCH IN CANADA?L@@sers mole
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Re: Dyson DC23
Reply #54 Aug 4, 2008 9:20 am |
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AND AFTER 576900,PROTOTYPES WE STILL CANT GET IT RIGHT.THE SHAME OF IT ALL. BUT HEY I GOT MY DESIGN SCHOOL, BUT,BUT,BUT THE BAG WAS HOPELESSLY CLOGGED,AND LETS SEE NOW I STEPPED UP THE CLEANING PERFORMANCE THANKS TO THE GUYS THAT BUILD THE BRUSH ROLL FOR US,NOW THE FILTRATION SYSTEM CANT KEEP UP WITH IT,HHHMMM HOW AM I GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS ONE,I KNOW IM GOING TO INVENT A WASHING MACHINE....................... REGARDS MOLE P.S. i really looking forward to the christmas gift..........
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