Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Following is a link to a news article regarding the up and down sides for Electrolux during this year's first quarter.

http://www.centredaily.com/business/technology/story/553091.html

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Venson

Yes, I'd like to know since you mention it Hardsell.  What doe’s Oreck do... 1) in annual dollar sales 2) in annual vacuums sold 3) number of employees 4) just how old is the basic look of the Oreck 5) and what does the 1,000,000 hotel rooms vacuumed daily convert out to? -  What is the number of (commercial) vacuums used "...that cleans a million hotel rooms a day is now only $199!"   Carmine shoud be able to answer these fairly easy.  Carmine?        DIB

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< I've seen a 1979 Oreck patent with this exact/near exact look.  But I think this look may be even older than that.

2)  http://www.google.com/patents?id=59wxAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=oreck

 < Oreck in 5/2008

My, my.  How did we go from Electrolux, to dyson to ORECK?  Start an Oreck thread if you want to ask and answer questions about the most recognized man in the vacuum industry and his machines and business.  That is a more appropriate thread than this one.  Then all the ORECK facts will not be buried and hard to find.

But here's a taste for you:  Just focus on the 475-500 Oreck stores nationwide and do the math just for the real estate and ORECK store employees.  Not chinese/malay contractors [like dyson].  Impressive?  More opening every week too.  45 plus years of history in the US vacuum industry.  All vacuums still made in the USA.  $150-$199 for a US made vacuum with a 1-3 year warranty and 45 year history is a patriotic bargain. 

Carmine D.

You should know better than anyone about getting off subject.  You add Dyson to every thread, regardless of the topic.  Payback can be hell.

Recognition of a founder and all the other references that you mention do not equal performance nor quality.  That 1- 3 year warranty is the biggest cost associated with an Oreck purchase.  Why no 5 or 6 year warranty?  The only impressive thing about Oreck is how they continue to sell inferior products. 

As for the XL21 warranty.  They must charge about $700 to $750 for that warranty.

Carmine D.

I understand Carmine.  You never have a response when you are bested.

Nothing new certainly applies to Oreck.  I find it very amusing that you once bragged about Hoover's superiority.  They failed, largely due to Dyson.  We never heard about the wonderful Oreck back then.  Since you failed so miserably with Hoover you are now trying to tell us that Oreck is the greatest.

LOL.

But you did not provide your reference source for the dyson info.  Don't have an authoritative source?  Just made up from bits and pieces here and there?  How do we know its reliable?

Carmine D.

I know you are reading challenged.  But follow me here.  TTA owns HOOVER, VAX, DIRT DEVIL, ROYAL.  It is the largest maker and seller of vacuums in the USA.  Period, end of story.

ORECK is a niche seller: Lightweights and hotels/motels.  Each is famous in their own right and have a captured loyal market. 

Dyson has slogans and high prices.  A toy with a purpose.  Mediocre at best industry reviews from both sides of the pond.  And that's being generous to dyson.  The signature dyson model, the DC07, is and has been a flop in the USA.  It's being discontinued for failing to perform well on many US carpets, including mine and many others.  It's overriding weakness: a sub par brush roll.  If you invent a vacuum, I don't care how advanced the technology, and put a toy brush on it, it ain't worth $400.  In fact it ain't worth $100.  End of story.  Anyone who can't understand and believe that as a basic truth is blind in love with James Dyson.  And we have a bunch of posters here who are and are proud of it.

You impugn ORECK for being a $199 lightweight 8 pound vacuum.  Compare its brush roll to dyson's DC07 and DC14.  I'd take the $199 ORECK over the $400 DC07/DC14 anyday and in everyway.   And in fact I have and continue to.  Success speaks for itself.  Failure to perform at any price is still failure.

If dyson and dyson fans were so impressed with the DC07 and DC14, they would not be obsolete now after less than 5 years.  The norm for the industry is 7.  Truth is the DC07 and DC14 were obsolete when they were launched in the USA.  Why?  Brush roll.  The worse in the industry bar none.  James Dyson is lucky as heck to have sold as many as he did before the using vacuum public realized the vacuum is nothing more than an overpriced toy with a purpose.

Carmine D.