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Venson


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Points: 1900

Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Original Message   Apr 29, 2008 10:31 am
Hi all,

Following is a link to a news article regarding the up and down sides for Electrolux during this year's first quarter.

http://www.centredaily.com/business/technology/story/553091.html

Best,

Venson

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #109   May 27, 2008 8:31 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Speaking of manufacturing jobs going to China and elsewhere.  Check out how much Wal-Mart advertises (until told “no” by NAD) the average American saves by shopping at their store  A $2500 savings comes at an awfully high price!        DIB

 

http://www.nadreview.org/DocView.asp?PageContext=212815050461327408&SessionID=1374466&DocumentID=6709



Does anyone know what the # 1 # 2 best selling items are at Wal Mart?
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #110   May 27, 2008 10:25 pm
CarmineD wrote:
But Vax trumped dyson by upping its warranty [parts and labor] on new vacuums to 6 years!

Carmine D.


Well at least the slothful can claim something originated from them and not Dyson.        DIB


mole


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Location: earth
Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Points: 783

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #111   May 27, 2008 10:45 pm
Here is some more useless knowledge for you to ponder maybe since Vax which is owned by TTI,you know the same company that owns Dirt devil royal,regina,etc.The top end dirt devils carried a 6 year parts and labour oh i used the jolly good chaps version of labor, warranty for many years now,tti said what the heck the dirt devil cruiser is just as much junk as the Vax and Dyson, lets level the playing field out and tell the customers our junk is as good as their junk,except ours is in expensive junk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Hey Gasko can i call you Dilbert Goldfarb,

sincerely

THE- MOLE
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #112   May 28, 2008 7:46 am
mole wrote:


Hey Gasko can i call you Dilbert Goldfarb,

sincerely

THE- MOLE



Hello Mole:

As a fan and daily reader of Scott Adams, you would be impugning Dilbert and overly complimenting Tom Gasko.

Carmine D.

This message was modified May 28, 2008 by CarmineD
DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #113   May 28, 2008 10:13 am
M00seUK wrote:
Yeah, they *surely* would have offered 6 years, even if the market leader didn't offer 5!

I don't know, but I'd be of the presumption that the quality of the VAX after sales support wouldn't be a patch on Dyson's.

Thats about the only good thing about the new VAX machines is the 6 year warranty!  One thing people will notice about these machines is how bulky and heavy they are and how many 'fiddley' switches and dials are on them!
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #114   May 28, 2008 10:30 am
mole wrote:
Here is some more useless knowledge for you to ponder maybe since Vax which is owned by TTI,you know the same company that owns Dirt devil royal,regina,etc.The top end dirt devils carried a 6 year parts and labour oh i used the jolly good chaps version of labor, warranty for many years now,tti said what the heck the dirt devil cruiser is just as much junk as the Vax and Dyson, lets level the playing field out and tell the customers our junk is as good as their junk,except ours is in expensive junk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Hey Gasko can i call you Dilbert Goldfarb,

sincerely

THE- MOLE

“More useless knowledge”?  Take it easy Sunshine.        DIB


DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #115   May 28, 2008 2:45 pm
Motorhead wrote:
Hi DIB,

Thanks for the patent clarification and proving that (once again) the Kenneth J. Weger patent has virtually no relevance on this thread (or concerning Dyson for that matter; two completely different machines).  I can see where the main body of the machine articulates, however, it does not appear that the nozzle can be easily steered as on the Dyson patent.  It's easy to tell why this lawsuit was thrown out; Dyson did not copy the patent but instead took the basic design and improved on it like they have done many times.  As for the name of his device, the "Ball Wheel Facilitator", I believe that is misleading because the term "ball wheel" implies that it is a single ball wheel, when it is instead two convex wheels that move with the articulated body of the cleaner.  Like you said, I do not see how this could be steered easily unless the nozzle floated somehow (since the nozzle is obviously not on a pivot itself), and even then I have to wonder how effective this steering mechanism would be.   Since Kenneth J. didn't actually produce a cleaner, we will have to leave it up to our own opinions.

As far as the Electrolux/Dyson issue with the recycled cleaner, do I predict it will be a huge blowup?  No, but something *will* happen eventually, most likely Electrolux removing their "world's first recycled vacuum cleaner" claim with a minimum of fanfare.

-MH (too far South to be my friend Tom G. lest you forget Carmine )

Hi Motorhead,

.

Thanks.

.

Don’t let Carmine rattle your cage (get you to doubt exactly how James will proceed or the spirit of your position) over what tools James may/may not use to remind competitors what is his, this includes using lawsuits.  Only after a filed lawsuit did Hoover U.S. abide by NAD’s ruling of – Do not use “No Loss of Suction” on their Fusion or Legacy vacuums and advertising that proved to indeed loose suction (after 10.5 oz. of dust).  I like underdogs and David vs. Goliath-like stories.  I put together a sampling of what James goes up against every day of his business life.        DIB

.

Dyson

Electrolux

1)      $1 billion annually

2)      2-3 million products sold annually (approx.)

3)      15 years in  business (Dyson LTD)

4)      1700 employees (approx.)

5)      45 markets

1)      $104 billion annually

2)      40 million products sold annually

3)      80 years in business

4)      56,900 employees

5)      150 markets

http://www.electrolux.com/company_overview.aspx

This message was modified May 28, 2008 by DysonInventsBig



CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #116   May 28, 2008 6:09 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

I like underdogs and David vs. Goliath-like stories.  I put together a sampling of what James goes up against every day of his business life.        DIB

.

Dyson

Electrolux

1)      $1 billion annually

2)      2-3 million products sold annually (approx.)

3)      15 years in  business (Dyson LTD)

4)      1700 employees (approx.)

5)      45 markets

1)      $104 billion annually

2)      40 million products sold annually

3)      80 years in business

4)      56,900 employees

5)      150 markets

http://www.electrolux.com/company_overview.aspx

Hello DIB:

Good info.  Thank you but................You provided the Electrolux source for your data.  How about the dyson source? 

Interesting too that you like the David and Goliath stories and favor the underdog.  How then do you explain your liking for dyson against Kenneth J, an engineering student.  Dyson LTD and the slick NY city lawyers with 3 names and 3 piece suits.  Sounds like you were in Goliath's corner in that fight.  Against David.

I always say: Where people stand oftentimes depends on where they sit.

Carmine D.

This message was modified May 28, 2008 by CarmineD
CarmineD


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Points: 5894

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #117   May 28, 2008 6:42 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hi Motorhead,

.

Thanks.

.

Don’t let Carmine rattle your cage


Hello DIB:

This is very comforting to know.  Tom Gasko is locked up where he belongs.   

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #118   May 28, 2008 10:03 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hi Motorhead,

.

Thanks.

.

Don’t let Carmine rattle your cage (get you to doubt exactly how James will proceed or the spirit of your position) over what tools James may/may not use to remind competitors what is his, this includes using lawsuits.  Only after a filed lawsuit did Hoover U.S. abide by NAD’s ruling of – Do not use “No Loss of Suction” on their Fusion or Legacy vacuums and advertising that proved to indeed loose suction (after 10.5 oz. of dust).  I like underdogs and David vs. Goliath-like stories.  I put together a sampling of what James goes up against every day of his business life.        DIB

.

Dyson

Electrolux

1)      $1 billion annually

2)      2-3 million products sold annually (approx.)

3)      15 years in  business (Dyson LTD)

4)      1700 employees (approx.)

5)      45 markets

1)      $104 billion annually

2)      40 million products sold annually

3)      80 years in business

4)      56,900 employees

5)      150 markets

http://www.electrolux.com/company_overview.aspx


It is also good to know that in Dyson's case the underdog is best regardless of sales.  Look at the # of $50 Orecks sold for almost $800.  Good marketing is better than a great product (for sales and not the consumer).
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