Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

You raise very good points.  Very cogent arguments.  

Please, tell me which dyson vacuum did dyson claim to be the world's first recycled vacuum:  Was it the DC02 ReCyclone canister [cyclinder for our UK fans] and/or the DC03 ReCyclone upright which Tom Gasko quoted from the User manual?  It appears dyson used the World's First claim for both vacuums?  Tom said in his original post here [the one saying there would be a dyson lawsuit against Electrolux] it was the DC02 canister.  But his follow up post quotes directly from the DC03 Manual.  Apparently, he is confused too just as dyson.  Which do you say it is?   DC02/DC03?

You should re-read MH's post.  The DC02 is the Recyclone,  James enourages ReCyclone recycling by talking of it in his DC03 manual.

Just because dyson made the claim first that either/both vacuums were recycled, does it have incontrovertible proof, defensible in a court of law, that the dyson vacuums were in fact made from recycled plastic?  This is the point M00seUK makes.  Or just dyson say so that they were?  Does it make a difference: To claim it but not be able to prove it?  In a court of law?

Electrolux can defend its World's First recycled vacuum claim.  It quotes the percentages of recycled plastics to the nearest whole number.  Electrolux takes the claim very seriously.  Even to the point of explaining the reason for the one and only dark "green" color.  Unlike dyson which offered the recycled vacuums in several consumer pleasing colors. 

Carmine,

The FTC does not care of what Electrolux thinks or their intentions or their good will.  The FTC wants honesty in advertising.  The FTC is goverened by rules, and should enforce them.

 I stand on what FTC and NAD say and represent…  If it is not true then do not advertise it as such.  I've got admit that I now have a new and profound respect for the FTC.  They even ruled against a powerful but untrue advertised claim made by the mighty Walmart.  At which Walmart thanked them.  Amazly,  the FTC gives Walmart a lickin and Walmart thanks them for it.  Many, many corporations are super competitive and will resort to lying and/or making false claims.  The FTC is on the side of the little guy, the individual, and I am glad. The Wright Brothers flew terribly on their first flight by today's standards.  But they were the "Worlds First" at powered flight.        DIB

 I stand on what FTC and NAD say and represent…  If it is not true then do not advertise it as such.  I've got admit that I now have a new and profound respect for the FTC.  They even ruled against a powerful but untrue advertised claim made by the mighty Walmart.  At which Walmart thanked them.  Amazly,  the FTC gives Walmart a lickin and Walmart thanks them for it.  Many, many corporations are super competitive and will resort to lying and/or making false claims.  The FTC is on the side of the little guy, the individual, and I am glad. The Wright Brothers flew terribly on their first flight by today's standards.  But they were the "Worlds First" at powered flight.        DIB

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Carmine D.

This forum was so dulll until they joined in.  If we all agreed on the same thing there would be a lot of lost information.

Here's what I think will transpire:  Mr. Dyson and/or his designee will contact their counterpart at Electrolux and say dyson had the first recycled vacuum.  The Electrolux person will ask what does that dyson claim mean?  And the dyson person, like you and others here, won't be able to intelligently say what the dyson claim means.  Let alone will dyson have the proof to back it up. [10 years ago].  An impasse will result.

Dyson's high powered, high hourly priced, NY lawyers with 3 names and 3 piece suits will file a lawsuit against Electrolux.  In fact, I personally and professionally believe that all the vacuum makers, including Electrolux, hope this is the case.  Three years from now when the opening arguments are presented, the dyson legal team will fall short of the necessary proof to back up its claim:  World's first recycled vacuum.  Electrolux will have 3 years of proof and be represented by a low-paid paralegal that looks like Kali from HSN with Kelly Rippa in toe as the official spokeswoman for Electrolux.  The hearing official, probably a kratchety old male judge, will recommend a mutual settlement to and by both parties.  Terms will be confidential and undisclosed. 

Electrolux will agree to modify its existing claim to the following:  "The World's First Proven Recycled Vacuum."  The dyson attornies will agree to this verbage.  Then they will mail Mr. Dyson an invoice for legal fees for $1 MILLION, possibly more.

All the vacuum manufacturers will have a good laugh [at dyson's expense].

Carmine D.