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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Original Message   Apr 29, 2008 10:31 am
Hi all,

Following is a link to a news article regarding the up and down sides for Electrolux during this year's first quarter.

http://www.centredaily.com/business/technology/story/553091.html

Best,

Venson

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Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #17   May 17, 2008 11:55 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Electrolux launches a "Green" vacuum.  Story here.

OH MY.  There's going to be a lawsuit very soon, James is not going to let this one go.  For anyone who doesn't remember the ReCyclone (a remanufactured DC02 that was around circa-1998), let me tell you about it.  It was in fact the world's FIRST recycled vacuum cleaner; the ONLY new components were the cord, switch, and motor.  The manual was printed on 100% recycled paper, the box was 100% recycled cardboard, and the machine was placed in a burlap bag within the box (no polystyrene packaging).  Ironic that James could actually make his "green" vacuum, well, green, and Electrolux can only make it black. 

Get ready, folks, it's coming.  There's gonna be a dustup in the old town tonight...

-MH
Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #18   May 17, 2008 12:05 pm
And did you notice the "healthy, hygienic, and environmentally friendly dust and dirt disposal" is none other than a *non-micro* bag made out of 100% cellulose?  How is that environmentally friendly to make a vacuum bag by cutting down trees, and not a good one either that only holds 3 cups of dust?  Talk about vacuuming for 10 minutes.  That washable HEPA filter was a must because all the dirt is going to leak out, it will have to be washed at least after every bag change.  I hope they were smart enough to put it in front of the motor and not behind it, though considering what the machine is so far, I somehow doubt it. 

All they did was take one of those awful, crappy old Eureka Oxygens and make it out of SOME recycled plastic (keyword 55%), it's not even 100% recycled like the ReCyclone.  I bet James is having a good laugh over this one.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #19   May 17, 2008 3:10 pm
Motorhead wrote:
OH MY.  There's going to be a lawsuit very soon, James is not going to let this one go. 
-MH



Hello MH:

Do you recall a similar pronouncement made in June 2004 when HOOVER intro'ed the FUSION at Wal*mart after the fall out over the DC07 All Carpets?  I believe the exact words of the poster were:  "A big legal action by dyson all wrapped up in a big red bow."  Then the alleged infringements were for dyson's bagless bin components and cyclone technology, if I recall.  Nothing ever happened over the matter despite repeated mention by the poster.  And the HOOVER FUSION went on to have a long run at WM and Sam's Club and still today as the Mach.

Is this the same?  Another wolf cry with no wolf anywhere around to be seen. 

BTW, from what University/College did you get your law degree?

Carmine D.

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DysonInventsBig


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Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #20   May 17, 2008 6:35 pm

Carmine,

Dyson v. Maytag, did it happen?  Yes.

 

  • Lawsuit filed on 6/5/05
  • Jury trial demanded.
  • Dyson claims 4 of its patents were infringed by Hoover (Walmart/Fusion)
    • Patent’s:  4643748, 4826515, 4853008, 5858038

DIB


HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #21   May 17, 2008 6:58 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello MH:

Do you recall a similar pronouncement made in June 2004 when HOOVER intro'ed the FUSION at Wal*mart after the fall out over the DC07 All Carpets?  I believe the exact words of the poster were:  "A big legal action by dyson all wrapped up in a big red bow."  Then the alleged infringements were for dyson's bagless bin components and cyclone technology, if I recall.  Nothing ever happened over the matter despite repeated mention by the poster.  And the HOOVER FUSION went on to have a long run at WM and Sam's Club and still today as the Mach.

Is this the same?  Another wolf cry with no wolf anywhere around to be seen. 

BTW, from what University/College did you get your law degree?

Carmine D.



The Fusion lasted less than 3 years and you call that a long run, yet you have contended for years that Dyson would falter,  Does anyone else find this amusing?  LOL>
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #22   May 17, 2008 7:04 pm
Here it is...  The ReCyclone.

  Enlarged pic


Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #23   May 17, 2008 8:30 pm
This is the Fantom canister from back in the day with a new color.

Venson

Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #24   May 17, 2008 10:05 pm
Hi Venson,

Actually it was the other way around--the Fantom Lightning was essentially a reworked DC02 with a power nozzle.  Incidentally, both the Lightning and the ReCyclone were around at the same time.

-MH
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #25   May 17, 2008 11:18 pm
Thanks MH.

Venson

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Electrolux -- First Quarter 2008 . . .
Reply #26   May 18, 2008 7:33 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Carmine,

Dyson v. Maytag, did it happen?  Yes.

 

  • Lawsuit filed on 6/5/05
  • Jury trial demanded.
  • Dyson claims 4 of its patents were infringed by Hoover (Walmart/Fusion)
    • Patent’s:  4643748, 4826515, 4853008, 5858038

DIB



Hello DIB:

Thanks.  That was about one year after the FUSION was launched at Wal*Mart.  But filing a lawsuit is very common in the USA which is the most litigious society in the world.  Why?  Because we have the most number of lawyers per person.  What was the outcome of the suit?  Would you share here with us?

Carmine D.

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