Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Early news reports in the USA are saying the London financial markets nosed dived today in the worse downturn ever.  This comes on the heels of a 4 percent drop in the Dow Jones Industrials last week alone.  Since today is a Federal Holiday in the US in observance of Dr. Martin Luther King the financial markets are closed.  Not sure what impact the London market fall will have on the US markets--have to wait to see.

What and how long will it take jaydee to realize that he needs to enter the low to middle price range vacuum market to stay competitive in the USA in the big box stores' venue?

Any news yet on the 2007 dyson sales? 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Hello,

Re: Gates.

When a kid (me) watches his dad go from janitor to owner-operator of 3 successful restaurants and making a very good living via a good idea and lots of hours, then to loose it all because he was strong armed by a billionaire.  It is deeply profound and live changing.  Eye’s of a victims say it all, especially the eyes of loved ones.  I can relate to those who worked hard only to be forced out or hamstrung by Gates’ proven predatory practices.  It is said that Alfred Nobel created the Nobel Peace Prize because of the guilt he felt from his business – explosives, explosives that killed many in war.  I wonder if the boyish faced Bill Gates is trying to redeem or purge himself with the philanthropy.  Gates’ record is clear, he’ll destroy anyone/any business that gets in his way.  That is, until the U.S. and European governments stopped him and his partner.  It’s public record.  I believe what my Book says… That there is a Righteous Judge who sees what’s in people’s harts and minds.       

 

I am happy Gates helps others with his money.  I am happy seeing old film of the food kitchens serving the hungry of the Great Depression, even when the kitchen/s were financed by Al Capone.        DIB

 

P.S.  We all have the ability to look away and not look at the hard truth.  I’d like to think this is what the seemingly good Mr. Buffett does.

Lucky1 wrote:

Thanks man.  You and I do not see eye to eye on things Dyson, but your forthrightness and answering my post to you is much appreciated!  I had a few other quesitons too, if you can help.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

This reminded me of a similar more recent case.  I'm a fan of EWTN which was founded by Mother Angelica, who recently turned 85, over 25 years ago.  As a nun, she had no funds.  But she had a vision to build a Church/Shrine in Hanceville Alabama.  Not knowing where to get the seed money to start the project, she prayed and prayed to come up with the answer.  And it came to her.  She grew up in a city in Ohio and went to school with many friends who grew up to become mob members.  Men with lots of money.

So Mother went back to her roots to ask her friends for money.  She told them that she would seal their names in the mortar and concrete of the Shrine to the Blessed Virgin Mary, if they helped her financially.  In that way, whenever pilgrims made the journey to Hanceville and prayed at the Shrine, these mob members would be remembered for their generosity.  An offer that they couldn't refuse. Talk about money laundering!  You know the rest.   

My sense is that if Capone aka scarface, the head of Murderers Inc., died repenting and asking forgiveness and God's mercy, he was well on his way to Eternal Salvation. 

BTW, Capone died in federal prison of venereal disease serving a 13 year sentence for income tax evasion.  Ironically, the evidence used to convict and sentence him was older than the statute of limitations of 6 years.  His defense lawyers never asked for the case to be dismissed on those grounds, for whatever reasons.  If they had, the judge would have had no choice but to comply and throw the case out.  A fatal error on their part for Alphonso Capone.    

Only satanism denies man his inalienable right to reform.  My sense is that Capone did before checking out.  And maybe some of those mob members too who financed EWTN for Mother Angelica.

Carmine D.

DBI

Please don't think I am a Dyson "Basher". I am somewhat in the middle on my feelings about the Machine & the Company. I have addressed several of the issues why I am hesitant to sell them. As a Designer in a previous lifetime I support Inventors, individuals especially, and superior graphic design & marketing. I wish every company would embrace Design it would be a better world IMO. I do have major issue when bean counters & sales people take over a company. Dyson has no loyalty or commitment to the Vacuum business and the independent dealer. Why would they expect support from them. Like a wolverine who kills a large animal, eats what it can then ruins the carcass so no one else can use it. In the long run will this attitude help them and the vac business? The amount of referbs & Ebays are NOT a good thing for the business and Dyson will see it won't be good for them. So in essence I like the Idea and the creator I don't like what happens afterward.

Things I would correct are

Give indies access to and authority to repair snap on parts at least.

Give indies MUCH better prices. The sham that you are on the same playing field as BB& Beyond & the Internet etal is beyond insulting. Customers should be able to buy the vacuum at an indie for a minimum of $50 per machine less than they can get it anywhere else. More so if the dealer is willing to train to fix them.

Use some of those Advertising dollars to direct Buyers to the Local Vac Shop. If James were to look at the camera at the end of a commercial and say something to the effect of "Try our product at your local vac shop or support your local vac shop business, it would be both engaging to the public and be another vehicle for sales they are barely accessing. Doesn't have to be on every commercial but a few would be nice.

As far as design: Try to simplify, for repair or at least visually. Too many dangling, hanging parts.

If I was a paid consultant I would spend more time. Hope this helps

Lucky1,

Thank you for your response; you gave me a lot to think about.        DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

After you ponder, let us know what you think!

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Carmine, good stuff written.  Thanks.        DIB

DIB:

Thank you.

Carmine D. 

The CEO of GE, Jeff Immelt, is putting the GE Appliance Division on the auction block hoping to get $5-8 BILLION for its sale.  THe stock has languished for several years now and is at $32 due to poor operations and performance of the company.  

GE has been in the USA since 1907 and claims among its accomplishments the refrigerator, room air conditioner, and toaster oven.

Possible buyers: Bosch [Germany] and Haier Group of China. Private equity firms and even GE's Mexico partner Controladora Mabe SA could be interested.

Bad timing for GE due to the housing downturn and credit crunch.  THe lower dollar internationally is an advantage for foreign companies to buy the GE Division at a bargain basement price.

According to Euromonitor International 660 Million UNITS of large kitchen appliances were sold in the USA in 2007.  Whirlpool owned 26.1 %; GE 20 %; Private labels 17.6 %; Others 28.4 % and Electrolux AB 7.9 %.  Large kitchen appliances are refrigeration, home laundry, dishwashers, large cooking appliances and microwaves.

Last year GE sold its plastics division to the Saudi-s for $11 plus Billion. 

Carmine D.

According to the most recent and c-u-m-ulative year to date economic data, the UK is showing increased signs of a major recession.  Probably the worse since 1992.

Housing prices are down to the lowest in 17 years [the period for which the data is recorded], new housing sales are down and all retail sales are down.  Worse affected in retail:  Household appliances, furniture and carpets.  On a positive note, while unemployment is up, it is still within low ranges.

Britons are over spenders in large part due to the appreciation in the values of their houses.  And consumer spending in the UK accounts for 2/3 of the gross national product.  Very similar to the US.

Carmine D.